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So U think Vegan is healthy?
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RE: So U think Vegan is healthy?
(April 4, 2014 at 9:56 am)Alex K Wrote: Yeah, seriously, what else is there? There's got to be an explanation, and if we find out which it is, it will possibly enable people who don't want to eat meat to avoid problems.
Aractus, your approach seems to be that we need our meatichlorians, which are a magical substance which cannot be provided by alternative means, because...
Aren't you curious what the actual problem is?
Yes I am curious, and if you'd read what I said - my opinion has shifted, I need to unlearn everything I've learned about plant-based foods and the nutrients they provide. Everything. From this day on I know nothing.

In the video above the lady talks about how we can't digest cellulose (which we commonly call fibre and we use it to solidify our stool), and that plant proteins come wrapped in cellulose - I did not know this. Furthermore at this link shared by Harley, it talks about how there are only 300 species of plants that humans can eat - 300 out of 195,000 species, but yet we can digest and eat just about whatever meat we want.

I am curious, but I don't have the answer. I don't think you know the answer, if the dozens of doctors he saw for 22 years didn't have an answer that worked without going to meat then I don't see how you can claim to have a vegan-based medical answer. The only scientific answer that there is at present is that ancient humans had a primary diet of meat with vegetables and fruit, and that diet feeds our bodies needs.

Alex Jamieson no longer vegan:
  • While these cravings warred with my vegan-teacher self, I noticed that most of my health coaching clients and readers were not vegan. Many of them were interested in trying this style of eating, often for the same reasons that I had.
    They love animals and don’t want to contribute to their suffering.
    They care about the planet and our global health.
    They want to feel well in their bodies and lose weight.

    Yet, some of these clients weren’t thriving on a vegan diet. Some were sicker and heavier after going vegan than they were before.
    And they were so ashamed. Ashamed that it didn’t work for them when they thought it a moral, “right and kind” diet. Ashamed that the weight loss others had experienced wasn’t happening for them.
    They felt like failures.
    From that place, they craved something different.
    They were looking for a state of health and well-being where they didn’t feel judged or guilty for their bodies’ needs… or cravings.
    And I told them what I started to tell myself:
    Some cravings are just your body telling you what it needs.
    So I began coaching more and more people to trust their bodies.
    To learn to listen to their own, innate knowing.
    To live their truth.

    And people began to relax and feel better in their bodies. They lightened up about food and felt better about themselves. Once they started listening to their bodies and trusting themselves, the judgment about food lifted and they started eating better because they wanted to, not because they “should.”
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So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 5:03 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 6:05 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 7:06 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 7:16 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 7:54 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Zen Badger - April 4, 2014 at 7:08 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Napoléon - April 4, 2014 at 10:15 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by NoraBrimstone - April 4, 2014 at 8:46 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 9:13 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by LostLocke - April 4, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 9:56 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Nine - April 4, 2014 at 9:46 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 10:17 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Napoléon - April 4, 2014 at 10:32 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Alex K - April 4, 2014 at 10:43 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Minimalist - April 4, 2014 at 12:09 pm
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Anomalocaris - April 7, 2014 at 2:05 am
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 8:59 pm
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Bad Writer - April 4, 2014 at 9:21 pm
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 10:25 pm
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RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by psychoslice - April 4, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Aractus - April 4, 2014 at 11:44 pm
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RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by fr0d0 - April 10, 2014 at 7:57 am
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RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by Coffee Jesus - April 11, 2014 at 5:03 pm
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RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by psychoslice - April 21, 2014 at 3:22 am
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RE: So U think Vegan is healthy? - by KichigaiNeko - May 5, 2014 at 8:29 am
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