(January 8, 2014 at 6:14 pm)Belac Enrobso Wrote: I thought that this was interesting. According to Godels ontological proof, the existence of god is possible. This leads me to wonder what God could possibly be, considering there is scientific evidence for his existence, albeit mathematical.
What are your thoughts?
Wikipedia overview: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gödel's_ontological_proof
How it works: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/...es-it-work
News article: http://www.spiegel.de/international/germ...28668.html
What God could possibly be?
Interesting question.
What God cannot be is the Judeo/Christian God from the definitions provided.
Judeo/Christian God suffers from wrath, jealousy, vanity and pride.
So:
"God, by definition, is that for which no greater can be conceived. God exists in the understanding. If God exists in the understanding, we could imagine Him to be greater by existing in reality. Therefore, God must exist."
It is easy to conceive of greater than, or better than God.
Or:
"Definition 1: x is God-like if and only if x has as essential properties those and only those properties which are positive
Definition 2: A is an essence of x if and only if for every property B, x has B necessarily if and only if A entails B
Definition 3: x necessarily exists if and only if every essence of x is necessarily exemplified
Axiom 1: Any property entailed by—i.e., strictly implied by—a positive property is positive
Axiom 2: A property is positive if and only if its negation is not positive
Axiom 3: The property of being God-like is positive
Axiom 4: If a property is positive, then it is necessarily positive
Axiom 5: Necessary existence is a positive property"
Definition 1 goes out of the window.
So does 3.
And Axioms 2,3 when applied to God.
Axiom 5 has never been verified but it is not related to my argument above. Why is necessary existence a more positive property than being entirely fictional?
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