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January 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm (This post was last modified: January 20, 2012 at 6:12 pm by JudgeDracoAmunRa.)
The thing about debating atheism versus theism is this: there is only one atheism. If God does not exist, no other argument follows as to which God does not exist.
With theism, however, there is an argument that follows the simple premise that "God exists", which is "what is this God like"? The problem here is that there are no end of the possible conceptions of God.
When compared with the infinite possible conceptions of God, it can be seen that the concept of not-God is so small in comparison with the concepts of God that it can be said not to exist, and yet it does. This state of extant nothingness is called a singularity, and in the case of atheism verses theism this singularity (atheism) is swiming in the infinite (theism).
How can we get this singularity to change from not-God to yet another concept of God, and therefore unify the Infinite Set Of Concepts Of God?
We argue that there is only One True God, and that this One True God - if he really exists - could make himself known to everyone through whichever religion they chose to practice, even atheism itself. The problem here is how do you turn atheism into a religion? Simply by pointing at even someone like Richard Dawkins and saying: "Hey! To God you are a theist!"
By creating space in this way, the singularity known as atheism expands instantly to the infinite and becomes One with God.
Atheism is now officially a religion. You atheists may now preach and practice your religion with all the rights and benefits accorded to any other religion.
You atheists weren't wrong again, were you?
The interesting thing about Truth is that Truth is still Truth even if the devil speaks it. The interesting thing about Lies is that Lies are still Lies even if God speaks them.
So what? In the US a tomato is officially a vegetable and a corporation is officially a person.
That kind of legal fiction is called a 'deeming provision', where something is DEEMED to be something it clearly is not for legal reasons.
Deeming is also used to reduce delays.EG by deeming (assuming) all members have read a bill before Congress/Parliament. This is a fiction of which all members are aware..
(January 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm)JudgeDracoAmunRa Wrote: When compared with the infinite possible conceptions of God,
They can't all logically be correct dipshit, but they can all be wrong. Why should we believe any of them?
Quote:This state of extant nothingness is called a singularity, and in the case of atheism verses theism this singularity (atheism) is swiming in the infinite (theism).
1. Your "mathematical" analogy makes no sense.
2. A mathematical singularity, is not well-defined, so it can also be, for example, infinite as well.
3. Mathematics has nothing to do with beliefs or lack of beliefs such as what theism or atheism address or respond. Its a disciplined field of study.
Quote:The problem here is how do you turn atheism into a religion?
No, your problem is how do you turn theism into a religion, because its not, you twit. Atheism being the response to all theistic claims as not supported is obviously not a religion either.
Quote:By creating space in this way, the singularity known as atheism expands instantly to the infinite and becomes One with God.
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Atheism is not infinite, if you wanted to quantify it, because there are currently not an infinite number of god claims to reject or dismiss as 'unproven'.
Quote:Atheism is now officially a religion.
Hey, I am now also officially a millionaire. Just because you assert something doesn't make it true for one minute. Even you should be able to appreciate that.
Quote:You atheists may now preach and practice your religion with all the rights and benefits accorded to any other religion.
Atheism is not a belief system. It does not qualify as a religion because there are no dogmas, practices, rites, rituals or tenets within it. It barely qualifies as an "ism".
Quote:You atheists weren't wrong again, were you?
A lack of knowledge can be regarded as ignorance, but simply a lack of belief cannot be regarded as "wrong".
Quote:1) It's a fruit.
2) How the fuck would they even know what a vegetable is? Oh yeah they put it on pizza.
Just so. The ruling has something to do with school lunches. Apparently by law they must contain x vegetables. This way the tomato sauce on a pizza counts as a vegetable. Really.
(January 20, 2012 at 6:09 pm)JudgeDracoAmunRa Wrote:
The thing about debating atheism versus theism is this: there is only one atheism. If God does not exist, no other argument follows as to which God does not exist.
With theism, however, there is an argument that follows the simple premise that "God exists", which is "what is this God like"? The problem here is that there are no end of the possible conceptions of God.
When compared with the infinite possible conceptions of God, it can be seen that the concept of not-God is so small in comparison with the concepts of God that it can be said not to exist, and yet it does. This state of extant nothingness is called a singularity, and in the case of atheism verses theism this singularity (atheism) is swiming in the infinite (theism).
How can we get this singularity to change from not-God to yet another concept of God, and therefore unify the Infinite Set Of Concepts Of God?
We argue that there is only One True God, and that this One True God - if he really exists - could make himself known to everyone through whichever religion they chose to practice, even atheism itself. The problem here is how do you turn atheism into a religion? Simply by pointing at even someone like Richard Dawkins and saying: "Hey! To God you are a theist!"
By creating space in this way, the singularity known as atheism expands instantly to the infinite and becomes One with God.
Atheism is now officially a religion. You atheists may now preach and practice your religion with all the rights and benefits accorded to any other religion.
You atheists weren't wrong again, were you?
Is this for serious? If so why do you have the word "Pantheist" in your description. Pantheist are usually tossed into the same bowl as atheists. Yet you claim atheism is a religion?
January 21, 2012 at 2:43 pm (This post was last modified: January 21, 2012 at 2:44 pm by AthiestAtheist.)
(January 20, 2012 at 7:57 pm)5thHorseman Wrote:
(January 20, 2012 at 7:48 pm)padraic Wrote:
Quote:Atheism is now officially a religion.
So what? In the US a tomato is officially a vegetable
1) It's a fruit.
2) How the fuck would they even know what a vegetable is? Oh yeah they put it on pizza. :p
Tomatoes are a vegetable in terms of nutrition; they are low in sugar compared to most fruits. Also, fruit is a subset of vegetables, so all fruits are technically a vegetable. But when we say "vegetable" comparing it to a fruit, we usually mean a non-fruit vegetable (just like when we say "animal", it is implied to mean "non-human animal").
Atheism, while not a religion itself, is a religious position. So of course we deserve the same rights as people with religion do. It's as simple as that.
"Sisters, you know only the north; I have traveled in the south lands. There are churches there, believe me, that cut their children too, as the people of Bolvangar did--not in the same way, but just as horribly. They cut their sexual organs, yes, both boys and girls; they cut them with knives so that they shan't feel. That is what the Church does, and every church is the same: control, destroy, obliterate every good feeling. So if a war comes, and the Church is on one side of it, we must be on the other, no matter what strange allies we find ourselves bound to."
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