RE: Heaven and The Problem of Evil
April 15, 2014 at 3:59 pm
(This post was last modified: April 15, 2014 at 4:15 pm by Huggy Bear.)
(April 15, 2014 at 3:45 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote:(April 15, 2014 at 3:26 pm)Huggy74 Wrote: Not selective at all, read it how it is written. he put in the caveat "till all be fulfilled". The law did not exist until Moses. If God had intended us to live under the law, he would had given the law at the beginning.Okay mister I know more about God's will than Jesus did.
Jesus is not talking about how long they;ve applied, but how long they continue to apply. He says that not one jot or tittle shall pass fromt he law "until heaven and earth pass... till all be fulfilled".
Actually I'm quoting Paul:
Galatians 3 (KJV)
19 Wherefore then serveth the law? It was added because of transgressions, till the seed should come to whom the promise was made; and it was ordained by angels in the hand of a mediator.
20 Now a mediator is not a mediator of one, but God is one.
21 Is the law then against the promises of God? God forbid: for if there had been a law given which could have given life, verily righteousness should have been by the law.
22 But the scripture hath concluded all under sin, that the promise by faith of Jesus Christ might be given to them that believe.
23 But before faith came, we were kept under the law, shut up unto the faith which should afterwards be revealed.
24 Wherefore the law was our schoolmaster to bring us unto Christ, that we might be justified by faith.
25 But after that faith is come, we are no longer under a schoolmaster.
(April 15, 2014 at 3:51 pm)RobbyPants Wrote: Yes: So, God is capable of making a perfect realm where we don't sin, and we won't sin down the line. This is what most people consider heaven. If God can make that place, why didn't he make it in the first place? Once we get to that point in time (where there will be no sin in the future), then all discussions of sin and sin-caused suffering are useless and moot. If that realm can exist, then we could be in it now, but we aren't because God wants suffering.
No: So, there will always be sin sometime down the road, which means heaven is not permanent and you believe in a heaven vastly different than most Christians.
So Huggy, which is it? Yes or no? Can almighty God create a realm that has no sin and won't have sin in the future?
How did I not make myself clear? if an yes or no answer is what you want the the answer to "Can almighty God create a realm that has no sin and won't have sin in the future?" is yes. God wanting suffering would only be true if he made Eve sin.