RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
April 17, 2014 at 9:44 pm
(This post was last modified: April 17, 2014 at 9:48 pm by MindForgedManacle.)
(April 17, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: Maybe a topic for another thread, but there is a smidgen of evidence for one of the multiverse theories that explains this fine-tuning.
I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is a simpler and better supported explanation.
Ahh, here it is. http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...-universe/
Oh, you might've got the wrong impression. I'm not saying there aren't potential naturalistic explanations for cosmic fine-tuning (otherwise I wouldn't be a naturalist :p), but that such is more likely to occur if theism is true.
However, an even stronger fine-tuning argument can be made that goes beyond just fine-tuning of the universe, and it's probably the best argument for theism I've seen.
(April 17, 2014 at 9:27 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: What you say it true for your example. My point is that saying something is wrong, false, or otherwise mistaken shifts the burden of proof. An atheists go beyond simple disbelief once they assert that their denial is the correct position.
But yes. Burden of proof arguments are trivial like you say. At the same time I think its disingenuous for some to rail against believers and hiding behind a facade of indifference. If they were simply nonbelievers then the appropriate position is agnosticism.
I think I pretty much said that (the bit where I talked about the need for a rational reason for rejecting evidence for theism). :p