So U think Vegan is healthy?

[Coffee Jesus]

There's a lot of processed soy crap out there. Prove that unprocessed soy, like edamame, is poison.

Raw soy is toxic to all carnivores and omnivores. It's only non-toxic to herbivores.

Proof: The Health Dangers of Soy by Dr. Joseph Mercola

Now, since we know soy is toxic the onus of proof on whether processed soy is "safe to eat in moderate amounts" is on the one making the claim, and so far it has not been proven.

Wikipedia - Joseph Mercola
''A 2006 BusinessWeek editorial called his marketing practices as "relying on slick promotion, clever use of information, and scare tactics."[3] In 2005, 2006, and 2011, the U.S. Food and Drug Administration warned Mercola and his company to stop making illegal claims regarding his products' ability to detect, prevent and treat disease.[7] The medical watchdog site Quackwatch has criticized Mercola for making "unsubstantiated claims and clash with those of leading medical and public health organizations [and making] many unsubstantiated recommendations for dietary supplements."[7]''

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There are vegans that took oral B12 supplements and came to a point where their doctors told them the only way that they can continue their vegan diets is with intravenous B12, administered twice a year or so. That's why a lot of vegans that know about this are unable to tell you which B12 supplement to take to avoid B12 deficiency because the tablets have been proven not to work for everyone; just like how we have no drugs whatsoever that are effective for managing obesity - and in fact the drugs that have been on the market previously have been withdrawn.

You do realize you're at odds with National Institutes of Health on this? You never responded to this:

http://ods.od.nih.gov/factsheets/Vitamin...fessional/

"Existing evidence does not suggest any differences among forms with respect to absorption or bioavailability. However the body’s ability to absorb vitamin B12 from dietary supplements is largely limited by the capacity of intrinsic factor. For example, only about 10 mcg of a 500 mcg oral supplement is actually absorbed in healthy people [8]."

*note that 10 mcg is more than 4x the recommended daily allowance for adults.

As long as it's a biologically active form of B12, and as long as you have intrinsic factor, you will be able to absorb it. The form doesn't matter.
If somebody had to have it injected, maybe they weren't producing enough intrinsic factor.

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Which is why I suggested a balanced diet, there are drawbacks to every diet you try. If you exclusively ate meat or mostly ate meat you'd have horrible problems if not worse problems that if you were vegan or mostly vegan. And while a balanced diet is the best we can do currently, can we at least agree that meat is far from the most needed food group.

Eliminating an entire food group (or two, counting dairy separately) is not a balanced diet. Furthermore your comparison is uneven: meat is one food group out of five, and someone who eats only meat is eliminating four out of the five food groups. A vegan is eliminating two entire food groups: meat and dairy, that is not balanced. A paleo eliminates grain entirely, that also may not be balanced.

Meat is not a food group. The Food Guide Pyramid labels it Meat & beans, but the image also includes nuts and eggs in that area. It does include dairy as a food group, but the Harvard Healthy Eating Pyramid says "Dairy or vitamin D/Calcium supplements". However, there are some vegetables high in calcium, and mushrooms (a fungus) have vitamin D.

Hmm, but Harvard considers "Fish, Poultry, and Eggs" a unique food group.