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Poll: Which statement describes most accurately your understanding of the label atheism?
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The doctrine of belief that there is no god
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The disbelief in the existence of a supreme being or beings
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46 65.71%
Other (please explain)
34.29%
24 34.29%
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Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist?
(April 17, 2014 at 7:48 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: Believer: Because the fine-tuning of the universe for life is exponentially more likely on theism than on naturalism, and thus constitutes a strong probabilistic argument for theism. [This does in fact seem to be true]
(April 17, 2014 at 9:44 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote:
(April 17, 2014 at 8:03 pm)Coffee Jesus Wrote: Maybe a topic for another thread, but there is a smidgen of evidence for one of the multiverse theories that explains this fine-tuning.

I'm not saying you're wrong, but there is a simpler and better supported explanation.

Ahh, here it is. http://www.scientificamerican.com/articl...-universe/

Oh, you might've got the wrong impression. I'm not saying there aren't potential naturalistic explanations for cosmic fine-tuning (otherwise I wouldn't be a naturalist :p), but that such is more likely to occur if theism is true.
If there are naturalistic explanations, then this degree of fine-tuning wasn't in fact that improbable on atheism, thus it shouldn't be "exponentially more likely on theism".
Are you taking into account that a god might have made the world even better than it actually is?

(April 17, 2014 at 9:44 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: However, an even stronger fine-tuning argument can be made that goes beyond just fine-tuning of the universe, and it's probably the best argument for theism I've seen.
This has turned into a general thread for debating (a)theism, so you might as well describe it.
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RE: Atheists... why do you believe that God doesn't exist? - by Coffee Jesus - April 20, 2014 at 11:30 pm

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