(April 21, 2014 at 8:51 pm)Sid Wrote: And you guys need to understand that men, not the religion carried out those atrocities on those poor children. Yes, all of us Christians condemn any act and any cover ups. But do you really believe Religion itself is at the root if this problem and the secular society is clean. You profess intelligence and reasoning which would surely recognize this. I will sincerely apologies if I could get one of you to admit this is a broader issue than religious.
Of course men committed the acts, there's no fucking god to step in and do it for them, but the point is that these men were hidden and abetted by a large religious apparatus that serves no good that couldn't come from secular sources, actually does cause harm by helping criminals, and cultivates a mentality where personal responsibility can be absolved by magic beings that speak to you internally.
Religion sure as hell isn't helping, in that scenario. Or any scenario, really. And for a guy who said "two wrongs don't make a right," in an attempt to absolve the church a few pages back, you really do seem attached to this "well, secular societies do it too!" line of reasoning.

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