lol what? I thought you were living down South last I heard! Why on earth would you move to Utah??
I do respect myself. I also would want my Christian boss to promote me based on merit rather than my personal beliefs. That's just not going to happen, and you know what is important? Putting food on your kids' tables. Getting along with people at work so they don't try to get you fired from your job. You can't stop bigots in the workplace, but you don't have to lay down the line everywhere you work either. The ones who do lay down the line and declare war--will unveil themselves.
I think it's more self respecting to respect those who do not respect you. I'd rather a theist realize they're completely and utterly wrong on their own, without me telling them they are till I'm blue in the face.
That said, if someone states something fear-based and religion induced-- like, "I love the jews so much I'd blow up a mosque!" or, "Prayer's being taken out of schools!", I'll of course try to belay their fears with facts. But only when I'm invited to do so. I don't just break into a debate because someone says something that I disagree with.
If you read my prior posts then you'd know I said I don't outright open up a debate with people who talk about god to me by stating my beliefs when they don't know my beliefs. I also said I told everyone I know personally that I'm an atheist. But in public, you have neither the time or the energy to lay out your case of reality and break down theists' walls of ignorance and self delusion. They believe in god. I can't say there isn't a god so we have nothing to talk about, god wise. I try my best to find talking points about the reality of someone's conversation when they bring up god-- in order to simply relate to them. I don't like or dislike people of faith any more than I would someone not of any faith based on those facts--but that doesn't mean that other people will do the same thing. Christians are very thoroughly taught to actually be inherent bigots, so I try to live life as best I can being as good of an example of how I would like to be treated.
I do respect myself. I also would want my Christian boss to promote me based on merit rather than my personal beliefs. That's just not going to happen, and you know what is important? Putting food on your kids' tables. Getting along with people at work so they don't try to get you fired from your job. You can't stop bigots in the workplace, but you don't have to lay down the line everywhere you work either. The ones who do lay down the line and declare war--will unveil themselves.
I think it's more self respecting to respect those who do not respect you. I'd rather a theist realize they're completely and utterly wrong on their own, without me telling them they are till I'm blue in the face.
That said, if someone states something fear-based and religion induced-- like, "I love the jews so much I'd blow up a mosque!" or, "Prayer's being taken out of schools!", I'll of course try to belay their fears with facts. But only when I'm invited to do so. I don't just break into a debate because someone says something that I disagree with.
If you read my prior posts then you'd know I said I don't outright open up a debate with people who talk about god to me by stating my beliefs when they don't know my beliefs. I also said I told everyone I know personally that I'm an atheist. But in public, you have neither the time or the energy to lay out your case of reality and break down theists' walls of ignorance and self delusion. They believe in god. I can't say there isn't a god so we have nothing to talk about, god wise. I try my best to find talking points about the reality of someone's conversation when they bring up god-- in order to simply relate to them. I don't like or dislike people of faith any more than I would someone not of any faith based on those facts--but that doesn't mean that other people will do the same thing. Christians are very thoroughly taught to actually be inherent bigots, so I try to live life as best I can being as good of an example of how I would like to be treated.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.