RE: Homosexuals "wrecking" Christian careers
April 26, 2014 at 12:13 pm
(This post was last modified: April 26, 2014 at 12:19 pm by Mystical.)
(April 26, 2014 at 9:54 am)Heywood Wrote:(April 26, 2014 at 4:35 am)Luckie Wrote: Hey heywood,
I can't even remember what the OP was about, 14pgs later. But I have heard this 'persecuted baker slave' argument from my dad, along with the correlation between gay marriage and animal marriages.
It's apparent that you get your news from "biased news". You don't even know the real facts of the case!
Luckie, your post was too long and rambly and completely off so I didn't get much farther than what I quoted above....sorry.
I know for some this is a religious issue, but for me it is not. You cannot find anywhere were I gave religious reasons for my position. If you want to argue over religion and gays, go argue with your dad.
Further, this isn't about gays. Its about individual freedom. Gays just happen to be the flavor of the month. My political position is that people should be free to serve who they want to serve and be able to refuse to serve those they don't want to serve. God and religion are no where to be found in that position.
(April 26, 2014 at 6:52 am)downbeatplumb Wrote: Getting people sacked for supporting the anti gay cause is fighting back against discrimination.
I agree......and I have no problem with Mozilla firing its CEO. Where we disagree is I believe people should be free to discriminate.
So that's it then? Didn't read LOL? Do you have a learning disability that I should know about? I mean, I read 14 pgs of your drivel.
I know your position is that discrimination should be allowed---And I'm showing you why you're wrong with an example that you yourself brought up in the first place. My main points (that you failed to read or address apparently) were that no one gives a rats derriere what you think life should be like because discriminators are by fiat, guilty of human rights violations. That poor baker and his wife: are guilty according to state law of violating their contract by signing and receiving a business license and not adhering to the law. All they are, are fringe testing and all you are is some Guy whining that people should be able to discriminate and violate human rights.
I can't believe I have to remind you people that human rights exist irregardless of what you believe. They're self evident, and don't include a right to 'de scriminate' unless it doesn't cause harm to others. That Baker should bake cakes out of his house for Christians only, or put his big boy pants on and run a business in public, serving the public.
If I were to create self aware beings knowing fully what they would do in their lifetimes, I sure wouldn't create a HELL for the majority of them to live in infinitely! That's not Love, that's sadistic. Therefore a truly loving god does not exist!
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.
Quote:The sin is against an infinite being (God) unforgiven infinitely, therefore the punishment is infinite.
Dead wrong. The actions of a finite being measured against an infinite one are infinitesimal and therefore merit infinitesimal punishment.
Quote:Some people deserve hell.
I say again: No exceptions. Punishment should be equal to the crime, not in excess of it. As soon as the punishment is greater than the crime, the punisher is in the wrong.