(April 29, 2014 at 7:55 pm)fr0d0 Wrote:(April 29, 2014 at 7:39 pm)Simon Moon Wrote: Sure I can.
Present any 'logical' argument for the existence of god, and I, and others here, can point out the fallacies.
Some above moon flower. Do your worst.
It doesn't work that way, frods, and you know it.
I am not positing anything that needs to be supported, you are. My position is a response to you positing the existence of a god.
You are the one in the position of demonstrating the existence of a god. And unless you have a brand new logical argument for the existence of a god, you're shooting blanks. All of the known logical arguments thus put forth, have been refuted. They all contain at least one fallacy.
So, as far as I can tell, your position is not rational, nor is it supported by evidence or reasoned argument.
You'd believe if you just opened your heart" is a terrible argument for religion. It's basically saying, "If you bias yourself enough, you can convince yourself that this is true." If religion were true, people wouldn't need faith to believe it -- it would be supported by good evidence.