RE: Christians choose delusion
April 30, 2014 at 10:06 am
(This post was last modified: April 30, 2014 at 10:08 am by Cyberman.)
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: My words to you don't come from desperation. Or fevered imagination. I am not delusional.
And yet:
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: I am simply one person who knows God, who worships and prays to Him in the solitude of my own home.
If I swapped out the word "God" with Ganesh, or Zeus, or Ceiling Cat, what conclusion would you make as to the state of my imagination and/or grasp of reality?
How do you know anything at all about this "God"? On what are you basing the information? Fuzzy warm feelings? We all get those, but not everyone paints a face on them and prays to them. Even those that do so can't agree on what this god is supposed to be.
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: The point I was trying to show you is simply this.
You can believe that air, which is invisible, is real.
And detectable.
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: The heart, which is invisible, is real.
And measurable.
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: The mind, whose images and sounds cannot be grasped, is real.
And measurable.
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: God, who is invisible, who cannot be grasped, is real.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TxfZbj5vf7Y
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: we are made of visible and invisible things.
But not non-existent things.
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: I look at myself in the mirror and say, yes that is me. Yet, the greater part of me is what I do not see. That part, which is invisible I have recognized, and embraced and that part is joined with God. Yet I carry around this flesh, which is aging and breaking down, yet I am alive because of Him.
Cool story. How do you know any of this? How can you demonstrate it to others?
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: Consider how things grow. The seed in all of us, can be brought to growth through God.
What is this seed? Or is it some flowery poetry for something like this heart you used earlier?
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: Or do you believe that you are alive, waiting to die?
Yes. We are born, we live, we die. That is the reality we all share. If there is anything else, you need to demonstrate it before anyone else is obliged to consider it a possibility.
(April 30, 2014 at 7:20 am)Bronwynn Wrote: the opposite is true. We are only made alive through the life giving seed from above. this place, called hades or whatever you want to call it, is not Gods kingdom. This wretched place is called death. And Jesus was born into this world to take us out of here. He is the door which leads upward.
Yeah, well when you bring something to the discussion a little more substantial than nothing at all, I promise I'll listen
At the age of five, Skagra decided emphatically that God did not exist. This revelation tends to make most people in the universe who have it react in one of two ways - with relief or with despair. Only Skagra responded to it by thinking, 'Wait a second. That means there's a situation vacant.'
