My Mother is an Anti-Vaccination idiot.

[MJ the Skeptical]

It's not a binary question. Medicine affects different people differently - for me, for instance, penicillin is a great drug and works well. For others it does not.

You said those who take a strong stance for or against vaccines. That's the binary proposition at hand.

You can't just lump every single drug together and then say they're all equal. There are pharmaceuticals that have been recalled, there are drugs that are legal in some countries and totally illegal in Australia. It's no different for vaccines - just because some/many/most are great doesn't mean that all are, and in fact some have been recalled in recent years proving that not all are safe.

But vaccines are still an overwhelming positive. Which was my point.

Bullshit.

The default scientific position is scepticism.

So, saving countless lives means we need more skepticism about it. Gotcha.

Irrelevant because you're comparing the vaccines that are tested and proven already with new ones that are not. That's like comparing penicillin to some other fungus you've just discovered and just put onto the market with only 6 months of testing - not 6 years, and not the length of time we've had the existing drug.

You're the guy that kept changing scope and went on actual irrelevant tangents in another thread. I'll make this easy. I asked you a simple question, being this; What is the ratio of good vs harm in vaccines...But if you want to duck that again, fine by me.

Would you take a recalled vaccination after it's been recalled? If not, then why would you want to take it before it's recalled?? Ignorance is bliss.

Ducking another question to ask an obfuscating question. Typical creationist tactic. I'll give you another shot to be intellectually honest. Again, how often do recalls happen to how often the vaccines work?...

I don't take the position your mother takes, in case you didn't notice.

But there are things you would agree on. Just because you don't have identical viewpoints doesn't mean you wouldn't see closer with her on the subject. Unless you think we are more align. You're both religious folk, you would at least agree there xD