Hello, I'm new to this site but plan on staying for awhile. Unfortunately I live in Texas so it's kind of hard for me to meet new people around here. Not that I hate religious people, its just that everyone is SUPER religious here. Saying you're an atheist in these parts isn't really a good idea... I'd probably wake up to a pile of crap on my door mat every morning. I know not all Texans are like that but it is in the part i live..
Anyways I look forward to having some intelligent conversations and debates here. I'll start off by asking you guys and gals what you think about an ongoing argument i've been having with one of my Catholic friends. She has been my friend for over 10 years and we usually don't butt heads over religious views, but lately she has been trying to convince me her God is real. I tell her legitimate reasons for my beliefs (or lack thereof) all while not trying to offend her. I tell her why i believe evolution citing actual facts and well common sense.. Then as if she ignored everything i said she says "Well if you think about it evolution actually makes NO sense" (she never says why it doesnt make any sense btw). She tells me she studied these things in great detail in college (she was also home schooled by extreme Catholic parents.. biased much?) and kind of just laughs off anything i say. Then she starts to tell me.. "if you took a watch apart piece by piece to where its just a jumble of parts and took your hands smashed them together would they go back to their original working condition?" my response was of course "no" .. then she goes on to tell me how complex watches are and how they need a watch maker to make them work.. and that is why life must have been created by a higher being. (lol) I then tell her shes talking about a watch and not the universe which is expansive beyond imagination full of infinite possibilities. But ofcourse she sees that as more proof of God.. (*sigh*)
The sad thing about this is (besides her religious views) she is an extremely intelligent human being. I guess my question here is how do you get through to people like this? It's not that i want to change her, i would just like her to see my point of view. Maybe even see through all the brain washing her parents did. Should i just play dumb and let this continue? What angers me is that I actually listen and think about what she says.. but she completely ignores me. Anyone have any similar stories? Also her whole "watch story" seemed a little rehearsed..anyone heard a similar story? Like maybe the priests/preachers etc.. teach them these things to try and convince people?
Thanks for reading, it's nice to meet all of you. Hopefully we can have some good conversations for many years to come!
Mr Brightside
Anyways I look forward to having some intelligent conversations and debates here. I'll start off by asking you guys and gals what you think about an ongoing argument i've been having with one of my Catholic friends. She has been my friend for over 10 years and we usually don't butt heads over religious views, but lately she has been trying to convince me her God is real. I tell her legitimate reasons for my beliefs (or lack thereof) all while not trying to offend her. I tell her why i believe evolution citing actual facts and well common sense.. Then as if she ignored everything i said she says "Well if you think about it evolution actually makes NO sense" (she never says why it doesnt make any sense btw). She tells me she studied these things in great detail in college (she was also home schooled by extreme Catholic parents.. biased much?) and kind of just laughs off anything i say. Then she starts to tell me.. "if you took a watch apart piece by piece to where its just a jumble of parts and took your hands smashed them together would they go back to their original working condition?" my response was of course "no" .. then she goes on to tell me how complex watches are and how they need a watch maker to make them work.. and that is why life must have been created by a higher being. (lol) I then tell her shes talking about a watch and not the universe which is expansive beyond imagination full of infinite possibilities. But ofcourse she sees that as more proof of God.. (*sigh*)
The sad thing about this is (besides her religious views) she is an extremely intelligent human being. I guess my question here is how do you get through to people like this? It's not that i want to change her, i would just like her to see my point of view. Maybe even see through all the brain washing her parents did. Should i just play dumb and let this continue? What angers me is that I actually listen and think about what she says.. but she completely ignores me. Anyone have any similar stories? Also her whole "watch story" seemed a little rehearsed..anyone heard a similar story? Like maybe the priests/preachers etc.. teach them these things to try and convince people?
Thanks for reading, it's nice to meet all of you. Hopefully we can have some good conversations for many years to come!
Mr Brightside
In a universe full of infinite possibilities what can happen, will happen.
