(May 10, 2014 at 11:00 pm)BlackSwordsman Wrote: I notice you have nothing to reference as a back argument aside from Free Lee the Banana Girl whom I assume is who you are referencing, which by the way if you look at her BLOOD work she has been vegan over 7-years and her blood results are non-deficient. As released recentlyYou missed my point, so I'll restate it. Her experience is irrelevant (partly because she's changed her own story), the fact is that people listen to her "advice" for which she is unqualified to give. Like most "ethical vegans" she refuses to discuss or defend the unqualified advice that she gives. In one of her Youtube videos she claims that because the body makes cholesterol we don't need to eat any - I wrote a short comment that basically said this:
"Bad advice - at 0:00 you claim that we don't need to eat any cholesterol, but this is not the advice of professionals, here are two links:"
And I had two links. Here is one of them.
And I can't be brothered finding the other one at the moment, but it was by a doctor. Not surprisingly really, my comment was deleted. I said nothing else about 80:10:10 nor about veganism, nor about the dangers of low-cholesterol.
FYI as the link above points out, there's no such thing as "bad cholesterol".
Quote:A side note on the matter do you find it interesting that "we simply don't know the long term negative effects" of fruits and vegetables yet the "normal" dietary lifestyle meat, milk, etc. has well documented negative ill-effects in the long run.No I don't, and I'll quote what Daniel Vitalis says about that - if you proved to me that breathing less oxygen is good for my health that would be one thing, but from that it's a giant leap to then try and claim that breathing no oxygen at all would be better for my health.
For example:
Quote: data indicate that higher consumption of total red meat, especially various processed meats, may increase risk of developing type 2 diabetes
-American Diabetes Association
For Religion & Health see:[/b][/size] Williams & Sternthal. (2007). Spirituality, religion and health: Evidence and research directions. Med. J. Aust., 186(10), S47-S50. -LINK
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke
The WIN/Gallup End of Year Survey 2013 found the US was perceived to be the greatest threat to world peace by a huge margin, with 24% of respondents fearful of the US followed by: 8% for Pakistan, and 6% for China. This was followed by 5% each for: Afghanistan, Iran, Israel, North Korea. -LINK
"That's disgusting. There were clean athletes out there that have had their whole careers ruined by people like Lance Armstrong who just bended thoughts to fit their circumstances. He didn't look up cheating because he wanted to stop, he wanted to justify what he was doing and to keep that continuing on." - Nicole Cooke