Supernatural is, to me, a weasle word to avoid the rigors of a rational discussion. As a theological non-cognitivist I would say that Supernatural is as undefined as division by zero or god and not worthy of discussion. The theory of non-overlapping magisteria (NOMA) presents the proposition that there are different magisterium over which this or that (Science or woo?) method of apprehension is relevant. The supernatural used to be one of my favorite things to talk about because it is an unassailable place to build bullshit upon apophenia and wrap it up in some astrological, aural, or numerological happenstance and label it "real". I can't facepalm hard enough now.
The fact is that all things that are real are, by necessity, natural. To say that something is real but somehow NOT part of nature is to violate the rule of identity A=A and the rule of non-contradiction A!=!A. Even if God exists in some other place outside direct perception (Heaven); the claims made in the Christian bible outlines effects in the lives of God's followers that would be measurable, and demonstrable in the directly perceivable universe. Heaven would still be part of nature though, just a part that for some reason is not perceivable right now. Once we find a Forier Tranform Infra-Red device that uses radiation that interacts with, whatever Heaven is made of, we will be able to find it! But, I think that device was already created and featured in the movie Delicatessen. It was a bullshit detector, a funny sight gag.
The fact is that all things that are real are, by necessity, natural. To say that something is real but somehow NOT part of nature is to violate the rule of identity A=A and the rule of non-contradiction A!=!A. Even if God exists in some other place outside direct perception (Heaven); the claims made in the Christian bible outlines effects in the lives of God's followers that would be measurable, and demonstrable in the directly perceivable universe. Heaven would still be part of nature though, just a part that for some reason is not perceivable right now. Once we find a Forier Tranform Infra-Red device that uses radiation that interacts with, whatever Heaven is made of, we will be able to find it! But, I think that device was already created and featured in the movie Delicatessen. It was a bullshit detector, a funny sight gag.
