Our server costs ~$56 per month to run. Please consider donating or becoming a Patron to help keep the site running. Help us gain new members by following us on Twitter and liking our page on Facebook!
Current time: June 6, 2025, 6:00 am

Thread Rating:
  • 1 Vote(s) - 5 Average
  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
#35
RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
(May 11, 2014 at 9:48 pm)Pickup_shonuff Wrote: Ask them what they mean by morality. If it has nothing to do with the well-being of sentient beings but instead arbitrary rules established by an ancient deity on a long lost stone tablet, then they're not talking about morality. If they reply that it is the subject that deals with how human beings ought to treat others, then tell him you decide how to treat others the same way they do, or at least should: by experiencing suffering and well-being and using your brain to figure out how to best bring about results that multiply the latter and diminish the former.

Why is morality defined as the well-being of sentient beings? That’s completely arbitrary.

(May 12, 2014 at 5:58 pm)CharnelRC Wrote: People who do good because god tells them so are not doing it for the sake of goodness, but because they are told to do so with reward of "eternal life". In other words, Theists are robots who do what they're told.
Books and religions change. One century they'll consider a certain act as good, another century they'll consider it evil.

Only an Atheist can be genuinely good, because an Atheist isn't doing it for god, or out of fear, but for the good itself.

Morality is universal, god is not.

Tell that to those nuts and crackers, and they won't even know what you're talking about.

What makes a particular act good or bad? Why is morality universal?
Reply



Messages In This Thread
RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality? - by Statler Waldorf - May 12, 2014 at 6:56 pm
What I say is - by Zidneya - May 12, 2014 at 9:45 pm
Reply to Statler Waldorf - by CharnelRC - May 14, 2014 at 5:30 am
RE: what are we supposed... - by Statler Waldorf - May 16, 2014 at 6:12 pm
RE: what are we supposed - by Statler Waldorf - June 3, 2014 at 7:31 pm
RE: what are we supposed to say - by Statler Waldorf - June 4, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: what are we supposed to say - by Statler Waldorf - June 6, 2014 at 4:59 pm
RE: what are we supposed to - by Statler Waldorf - June 6, 2014 at 6:36 pm
RE: what are we supposed to - by Statler Waldorf - June 9, 2014 at 7:36 pm
RE: what are we supposed to say again - by Zack - June 11, 2014 at 3:46 pm
RE: what are we supposed to - by Statler Waldorf - June 16, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: what are we supposed to say - by CindysRain - June 20, 2014 at 6:23 pm
RE: what are we supposed to say... - by naimless - June 26, 2014 at 4:35 pm

Possibly Related Threads...
Thread Author Replies Views Last Post
  Morality Kingpin 101 11189 May 31, 2023 at 6:48 am
Last Post: The Grand Nudger
  A Case for Inherent Morality JohnJubinsky 66 10212 June 22, 2021 at 10:35 am
Last Post: John 6IX Breezy
  Morality without God Superjock 102 13705 June 17, 2021 at 6:10 pm
Last Post: Ranjr
  Morality Agnostico 337 54528 January 30, 2019 at 6:00 pm
Last Post: vulcanlogician
  Developing systems of morality, outside of religious influence. Kookaburra 28 5516 March 20, 2018 at 1:27 am
Last Post: haig
  Objective morality as a proper basic belief Little Henry 609 198357 July 29, 2017 at 1:02 am
Last Post: Astonished
Video The Married Atheist vid: Morality from science? robvalue 5 2304 March 19, 2016 at 2:57 pm
Last Post: brewer
  Does religion corrupt morality? Whateverist 95 31609 September 7, 2015 at 2:54 am
Last Post: Wyrd of Gawd
  Morality is like a religion Detective L Ryuzaki 29 9103 August 30, 2015 at 11:45 am
Last Post: strawdawg
  thoughts on morality Kingpin 16 7220 July 29, 2015 at 11:49 am
Last Post: Pyrrho



Users browsing this thread: 1 Guest(s)