RE: what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?
May 16, 2014 at 6:54 pm
(This post was last modified: May 16, 2014 at 6:55 pm by archangle.)
(May 11, 2014 at 9:39 pm)leodeo Wrote: Someone on another Atheist chat gave me a 'cheat sheet' which had all the answers to what to say when Christians ask stuff long time ago, but i lost it.
but seems frequently christian people tell me that without god we are all douches and if it wasn't for god there would be no good in mankind - so what do we say again for that?
sometimes i feel like 99% of people are pretty mean and it feels pretty spiritual when someone is nice to me, but i dont agree that without Christianity people are bad cus i know lotta nice people who aren't Christians. and seems to me like people on christian forums are the most mean, they don't use bad words but the things they say are much more mean IMO
i say same place as you do.
(May 14, 2014 at 9:31 pm)whateverist Wrote:(May 14, 2014 at 1:51 pm)ChadWooters Wrote: Perhaps. Morality has practical applications that extend into personal and public life much differently than aesthetics. It sounds like you put morality in the category of preference rather than proprietary. If so then the concept of justice has no foundation and I hate to say this because I know it peeves you but that's moral nihilism.
I only know "justice" as an attempt by people to use collective force to impose agreed upon norms on themselves. I don't think there is a Platonic perfect "justice" floating out beyond the ether which the attempts of men fall short of or approach to some degree. In any attempt to codify fair play, there are likely to be some who lose out in some way. I'm not at all sure that there is always a perfect path to justice. There may always be winners and losers in the best of all possible worlds.
without the loser there is no winner.
