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Abortion and Global warming
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RE: Abortion and Global warming
(May 21, 2014 at 12:36 am)Bad Wolf Wrote:
(May 20, 2014 at 10:55 pm)Heywood Wrote: Maybe I shouldn't....but I do.

That didn't answer why you would value the baby over the zygote. My point is that you shouldn't, however. If you see both of them as 'future people' you should have an impossible choice and be unable to choose. Not that that was an option.

Just because 2 beings both have a right to exist doesn't mean both have the same hold the same value.

Further, if you took your position to its natural conclusion then a parent is under no obligation to use their body to pick up a sick child and take it to the doctor....which is silly.

(May 21, 2014 at 4:03 am)Confused Ape Wrote: There's the problem of an increasing world population along with climate change.

World Population

This isn't a thread about the morality, necessity, or virtues of abortion. This is a thread about consistency. If future generations have a right to a clean and livable world then future generations have rights. This implies that future people have rights....including the right to exist. The right of a future person to exist contradicts a woman's right to an abortion.

(May 21, 2014 at 4:45 am)pocaracas Wrote:
(May 20, 2014 at 9:25 pm)Heywood Wrote: If you are pro-life, you should care very much about the environment and leaving the planet in working order for generations to come. The answer as to why some people are not is simple. People are not always consistent with their positions.
Should, yes... But, typically, those who attempt to prevent abortions from happening (so-called pro-life), are the same people who then are climate change deniers, or who don't care about recycling and the likes... These people tend to fall under the umbrella of the label "conservative right".

Other people having inconsistent positions is not a good excuse for you to have one.
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Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by SteelCurtain - May 20, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Minimalist - May 20, 2014 at 12:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Mystical - May 20, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Nine - May 20, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by RobbyPants - May 20, 2014 at 12:46 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 12:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 12:57 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Silver - May 20, 2014 at 1:01 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 1:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Silver - May 20, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 20, 2014 at 1:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Silver - May 20, 2014 at 1:48 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Confused Ape - May 20, 2014 at 1:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 20, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by RobbyPants - May 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 3:17 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 5:26 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 9:48 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 10:04 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by CapnAwesome - May 20, 2014 at 1:05 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 1:10 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 20, 2014 at 1:19 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 9:25 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Confused Ape - May 21, 2014 at 4:03 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 21, 2014 at 4:45 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cinjin - May 22, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 3:02 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Minimalist - May 20, 2014 at 1:33 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by rexbeccarox - May 20, 2014 at 2:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 2:44 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 3:04 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 3:17 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 20, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 20, 2014 at 2:59 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 20, 2014 at 5:07 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Zen Badger - May 23, 2014 at 7:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Tonus - May 20, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - May 20, 2014 at 6:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 7:18 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Anomalocaris - May 20, 2014 at 7:45 pm
Re: RE: Abortion and Global warming - by KUSA - May 20, 2014 at 7:22 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Writer - May 20, 2014 at 8:16 pm
Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 20, 2014 at 7:27 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cinjin - May 20, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cinjin - May 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 20, 2014 at 9:43 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 9:52 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 21, 2014 at 5:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Tonus - May 21, 2014 at 5:19 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 21, 2014 at 5:46 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 9:54 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Writer - May 20, 2014 at 10:07 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 10:17 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 10:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 10:31 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 20, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 10:55 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 21, 2014 at 12:36 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 21, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 21, 2014 at 12:25 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 21, 2014 at 6:38 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 22, 2014 at 5:48 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 6:57 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 7:37 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 22, 2014 at 7:51 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 8:15 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 8:40 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 10:38 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 10:49 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 11:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 12:15 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 8:49 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 9:11 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 21, 2014 at 2:26 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by paulpablo - May 22, 2014 at 6:03 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Chas - May 26, 2014 at 3:29 pm
Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 20, 2014 at 11:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 20, 2014 at 11:22 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 20, 2014 at 11:39 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 21, 2014 at 12:00 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 12:03 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by max-greece - May 21, 2014 at 4:57 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 5:28 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 21, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 21, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 2:47 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by The Valkyrie - May 21, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by LastPoet - May 21, 2014 at 3:48 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by The Valkyrie - May 21, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 21, 2014 at 3:52 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 9:24 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 11:12 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 11:16 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Fidel_Castronaut - May 22, 2014 at 11:23 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 22, 2014 at 2:00 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Cato - May 22, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 4:11 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 22, 2014 at 4:30 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 10:45 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by pocaracas - May 22, 2014 at 11:35 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 11:43 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 22, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 22, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Bad Wolf - May 22, 2014 at 12:28 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Esquilax - May 22, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Mudhammam - May 22, 2014 at 4:21 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 26, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 22, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by DamianThomas - May 26, 2014 at 3:23 pm
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Autumnlicious - May 27, 2014 at 12:35 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Heywood - May 27, 2014 at 12:39 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 27, 2014 at 12:48 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Ryantology - May 27, 2014 at 1:16 am
Abortion and Global warming - by Rampant.A.I. - May 27, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Abortion and Global warming - by Losty - May 27, 2014 at 1:50 am

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