(June 1, 2014 at 12:04 pm)MindForgedManacle Wrote: I'm sorry, but removing "In God We Trust" from our currency is not even comparable to the struggle of blacks or women in our history. Nor is it anything like the means they used to win their rights. There are more fruitful avenues to political change than scratching out a stupid phrase on money.
Oh my god, really? This is the same flawed logic that allows humans to go from the abused to the abuser. There is no "virtue of the oppressed", first off. Secondly it is precisely because I value the prior struggles of minorities in the past that I say what I say. You are unwittingly devaluing their struggles by making it about labels instead of accepting that our evolution has always produced acts of cruelty and compassion.
Having those words on that money is divisive. It is precisely because humans believe different things that by having those words on it it allows religion to divide us politically. Saying it is pointless to use that as a form of protest is to ignore how religion poisons politics.
These same people who want it on will bitch if a Muslims during the pledge say Allah instead of God. This country took forever to elect Jews and Catholics, and if Thomas Jefferson were to have run for office for either party today with what he said about religion, he could not get elected.
Susan B. Anthony Wrote:I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.
You can google image her name and see a picture of her being beaten up by white Christian men. Do you think their sexism came from secular law? No it came from their bible and as long as that word "God" is on there even today it justifies bigotry towards other current minorities such as Muslims, gays and even atheists. "God" is not despite what some claim, neutral. From the first day Christians proposed putting it on our currency it was a violation of the First Amendment and only intended for them, no one else.
Our religious majority didn't even have the decency to at least leave that motto off the coin honoring her. It wasn't that she was an atheist herself, but she like I understood the dangers of religion mixing with government.
There can be no peace in government as long as it insists on gang tagging government property with gods no one can agree on. Secular law and common law, not religion, is why we are more civil in the west and why we are not a fascist theocracy.
If you really think those words are harmless being on money you are party to a future where a new minority will be subject to the same horrors and bigotry minorities of the past suffered from.
Now if you think it does not work, you don't have to do it yourself, but the others who want to do it, will and being an armchair quarterback will not stop them.
Every time we mark those words off someone sees it. Then when they get angry about it they bitch about it on social media, then secularists can use that as a teaching moment to state the facts of history. And again, most of the time what it does is not for the person getting angry about it, but acts as a stage for people who simply never thought about it, and for those people it can work because they are not pre brainwashed.
Kudos to everyone who does do this.
