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In God We Trust
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RE: In God We Trust
(June 1, 2014 at 12:40 pm)Brian37 Wrote: Oh my god, really? This is the same flawed logic that allows humans to go from the abused to the abuser. There is no "virtue of the oppressed", first off. Secondly it is precisely because I value the prior struggles of minorities in the past that I say what I say. You are unwittingly devaluing their struggles by making it about labels instead of accepting that our evolution has always produced acts of cruelty and compassion.

Okay dude, what the hell? Aside from jumping straight into non sequiturs and bare assertions, how have I devalued those past struggles or making this about labels? I said that you're doing something that just isn't going to do anything because it's pointless, and isn't going to affect any actual political change. You're trying to combat an absurdly small symptom instead of the underlying system that causes the symptom to manifest. It would be like having MLK Jr. spend his life trying to stop people from saying "nigger" instead of combating the political system and social morays that fostered hatred of blacks.

Quote:Having those words on that money is divisive. It is precisely because humans believe different things that by having those words on it it allows religion to divide us politically. Saying it is pointless to use that as a form of protest is to ignore how religion poisons politics.

Religion's poisoning of politics is on a much higher level than a phrase on currency. It's religion's influence on politics that allows for it to push forthat. Again, look at the forest, not the individual trees.

Quote:These same people who want it on will bitch if a Muslims during the pledge say Allah instead of God. This country took forever to elect Jews and Catholics, and if Thomas Jefferson were to have run for office for either party today with what he said about religion, he could not get elected.

Non sequitur.

Quote:
Susan B. Anthony Wrote:I distrust those people who know so well what God wants them to do, because I notice it always coincides with their own desires.

You can google image her name and see a picture of her being beaten up by white Christian men. Do you think their sexism came from secular law? No it came from their bible and as long as that word "God" is on there even today it justifies bigotry towards other current minorities such as Muslims, gays and even atheists. "God" is not despite what some claim, neutral. From the first day Christians proposed putting it on our currency it was a violation of the First Amendment and only intended for them, no one else.

Again, non sequitr with the Anthony quote. And if you really think religion is the root cause of sexism, I suggest you look a bit more into psychology. Yet again, you're confusing an excuse some people give for sexism (religion) as if it were actually the root cause of it.

Quote:Our religious majority didn't even have the decency to at least leave that motto off the coin honoring her. It wasn't that she was an atheist herself, but she like I understood the dangers of religion mixing with government.

Do you really think the people designing these coins are even thinking particularly about everything to do with Anthony? I mean really dude, you are getting desperate.

Quote:There can be no peace in government as long as it insists on gang tagging government property with gods no one can agree on. Secular law and common law, not religion, is why we are more civil in the west and why we are not a fascist theocracy.

It shouldn't be there, but pretending that it's the only impediment to a peaceful government is laughable.

Quote:If you really think those words are harmless being on money you are party to a future where a new minority will be subject to the same horrors and bigotry minorities of the past suffered from.

My god dude, fuck off. I didn't say it was harmless, but I'm not splitting an ulcer on it when it's just a symptom of a sick system.

Quote:Now if you think it does not work, you don't have to do it yourself, but the others who want to do it, will and being an armchair quarterback will not stop them.

It's not going to work because it's absurdly small-minded. To give another analogy, it'd be like civil rights activists redacting all the racists parts of books as their means of enacting social change.

Quote:Every time we mark those words off someone sees it. Then when they get angry about it they bitch about it on social media, then secularists can use that as a teaching moment to state the facts of history. And again, most of the time what it does is not for the person getting angry about it, but acts as a stage for people who simply never thought about it, and for those people it can work because they are not pre brainwashed.
Do you know how few people would ever even notice that, much less how many will bother to bitch about it online?
"The reason things will never get better is because people keep electing these rich cocksuckers who don't give a shit about you."
-George Carlin
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Messages In This Thread
In God We Trust - by Elskidor - May 31, 2014 at 8:34 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Heywood - May 31, 2014 at 8:39 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Brian37 - May 31, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Elskidor - May 31, 2014 at 11:12 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Heywood - May 31, 2014 at 11:18 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by vorlon13 - May 31, 2014 at 11:19 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by MindForgedManacle - June 1, 2014 at 11:47 am
RE: In God We Trust - by Brian37 - June 1, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: In God We Trust - by Wyrd of Gawd - June 1, 2014 at 11:31 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by MindForgedManacle - June 1, 2014 at 12:04 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Brian37 - June 1, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Cato - June 1, 2014 at 12:08 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - June 1, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by BlackSwordsman - June 1, 2014 at 7:40 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Cinjin - June 1, 2014 at 7:52 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by MindForgedManacle - June 1, 2014 at 11:13 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by null--69 - June 1, 2014 at 11:46 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by BlackSwordsman - June 1, 2014 at 11:50 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by null--69 - June 1, 2014 at 11:55 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by Drewski Daisuki - June 4, 2014 at 1:57 am
RE: In God We Trust - by elconquistador - June 5, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: In God We Trust - by ThePinsir - June 5, 2014 at 12:24 pm

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