RE: Evidence of the Bible's Validity
June 5, 2014 at 10:35 pm
(This post was last modified: June 5, 2014 at 10:46 pm by Lemonvariable72.)
First off, hello jimmy, and welcome to our forum. You seem like a reasonaly intelligent person and I hope to see more of you here.
To counter your point, there are three ways in which prophecies are "fulfilled".
1. They are vague and usually need to be interpreted. Much like for example modern day laws.
2. They are written after the event occurs.
3. They are essentially guesses. For example lets say country A is invading country B. A prophet comes up in country B says "Woah you will be destroyed!" Now if country B fails and is destroyed, he is a prophet. Howvere if country B wins the war he is just Harold Camping.
Jimmy lets do a little simple math here. The angel appeared to john right?
Jesus was born in 6 b.c killed at 33 so that means he died in 27 AD. The very youngest john couldve been 13 when he started following jesus and bear in mind it is unlikely he started that young. so he followed for 3 years before his death and john was 13 thirteen when the ministry started that would mean he was in 11 AD at the latest. That would make him 84 by the time revelations was written. The average roman life expectancy was 45 if you survived till the age of 5. Hell even with modern medical care most men today don't reach 84.
(June 5, 2014 at 6:19 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: POINT 1#: The Bible contains various prophecies. If a sufficient number of these prophecies is true, than it is very likely that these prophecies are what they claim to be. Some kind of supernatural or divine revelation. Either that or they are a highly unlikely and EXTREMELY lucky guess. Can we agree on this first point?
To counter your point, there are three ways in which prophecies are "fulfilled".
1. They are vague and usually need to be interpreted. Much like for example modern day laws.
2. They are written after the event occurs.
3. They are essentially guesses. For example lets say country A is invading country B. A prophet comes up in country B says "Woah you will be destroyed!" Now if country B fails and is destroyed, he is a prophet. Howvere if country B wins the war he is just Harold Camping.
(June 5, 2014 at 7:54 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: This one is kinda complicated, so here goes:
The Book of Revelation was written around the year 95 A.D. You can read up on that HERE.
In Revelation 17 an angel is explaining the vision of John.
Jimmy lets do a little simple math here. The angel appeared to john right?
Jesus was born in 6 b.c killed at 33 so that means he died in 27 AD. The very youngest john couldve been 13 when he started following jesus and bear in mind it is unlikely he started that young. so he followed for 3 years before his death and john was 13 thirteen when the ministry started that would mean he was in 11 AD at the latest. That would make him 84 by the time revelations was written. The average roman life expectancy was 45 if you survived till the age of 5. Hell even with modern medical care most men today don't reach 84.
To-morrow, and to-morrow, and to-morrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day,
To the last syllable of recorded time;
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life's but a walking shadow, a poor player,
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage,
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing.
