RE: The redneck strike again.
June 6, 2014 at 11:04 am
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 11:09 am by Confused Ape.)
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I said that a car can go on kerosene instead of petrol (your gasoline)
but after sometime the motor will suffer.
In the same way the body can eat shit (meat) but after sometime
the damages will be evident.
You're completely missing the point. These people lived for generations in Arctic weather where there was very little plant food so they had to eat a lot of their meat raw in order to get all the vitamins and minerals they needed. Herbivores wouldn't survive on that diet any more than humans can survive on a diet of grass.
Not all vegans and vegetarians believe that humans aren't omnivores. From the Vegan Health Org website -
Is The Vegan Diet Natural?
Quote:Is the vegan diet natural? To answer that question, I recommend an article that examines the subject in great detail, Comparative Anatomy and Physiology Brought Up to Date: Are Humans Natural Frugivores/Vegetarians, or Omnivores/Faunivores? by Tom Billings. After an extensive review of the research, Billings concludes that humans are not naturally vegetarians or vegans. Despite this, he says:
I am both pro-vegetarian and pro-[eating raw foods as a large portion of the diet]. Readers should be aware that I am a long-time vegetarian (since 1970), a former long-time (8+ years) fruitarian (also a former vegan),... However, I am definitely not a promoter of, or a "missionary" for, any specific diet. In reality, I am tired of seeing raw and [vegan/vegetarian] diets promoted in negative ways by extremists whose hostile and dishonest behavior is a betrayal of the positive moral principles that are supposedly at the heart of veg*ism.
He continues:
You really don't need the naturalness claim to be a veg*n! That is, moral/spiritual reasons alone are adequate to justify following a veg*n diet (assuming the diet works for you, of course). Further, if the motivation for your diet is moral and/or spiritual, then you will want the basis of your diet to be honest as well as compassionate. In that case, ditching the false myths of naturalness presents no problems; indeed, ditching false myths means that you are ditching a burden.
Readers may also be interested in the article Humans are Omnivores, adapted from a talk by John McArdle, PhD (originally published in the May/June 1991 edition of the Vegetarian Journal). The PaleoVeganology blog also has interesting information about the diets of our ancestors.
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: Easily explained.
Wild meat is free from antibiotics, hormones and all other crap
used these days to keep meat fresh longer and red in color.
Also note that together with farm meat Artic people started eating
also junk food
Exactly. Their traditional meat diet was extreme because of where they lived but it was the kind of meat that humans evolved to eat. Archaeological evidence for meat eating 2.8 million years ago doesn't automatically mean that our ancestors ate vast quantities of it in Africa, though. After all, there's going to be a lot of animal bones piling up over the course of a couple of million years.
Two of my real life friends have been vegetarians for years. They're also pagans who follow an Earth based religion. They have never promoted the idea that humans aren't omnivores because they know how humans evolved. They believe in reincarnation as well but they aren't vegetarians because they're hoping to get a healthy body next time round. They've chosen a meat free diet for ethical reasons because they're against the way that farm animals are treated and the environmental effects of growing so much livestock feed. They're also concerned about the rain forests and environmental issues which have nothing to do with meat.
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I do not eat veggies burger or any other greasy veg. food so do all my friends.
From Post #730 in this topic.
(May 21, 2014 at 10:14 am)Riketto Wrote:(May 21, 2014 at 10:04 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: What did you have?
Wild rice with a vegetarian steak.
For drink i had sunflower milk shake (sunflower seed, lecithin, water, blended together)
Do the vegetarian steaks you eat contain palm oil? If not, that's fine. If the product does have palm oil is the supplier running a sustainable plantation which doesn't involve cutting down any more rain forest?
(June 6, 2014 at 9:27 am)Riketto Wrote: I believe that he did not eat shit but these days in India you don't have to
eat shit to get sick anyway.
Did you miss the bit about the genetic mutation?



