RE: Evidence of the Bible's Validity
June 6, 2014 at 12:59 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 1:01 pm by JimmyNeutron.)
Well, there seems to be quite a load of complete and total s**t to cut through in the above posts, but I'll try.
"Numerology is any belief in the divine, mystical or other special relationship between a number and some coinciding events." - Wikipedia
Numerology refers to the importance and mystical meaning of numbers, whereas I am simply pointing out the numbers themselves. This is actually really easy to understand if you use common sense. It's very much like if I said that I would pay you a million dollars if you could find me a pink-colored rock. The pink-colored rock itself isn't worth a million dollars. Now if you find a pink rock, you are likely to be excited, when before you might not have even noticed it. Likewise, the significance if the number 666 is external rather than internal. This number doesn't bear some inherent significance on it's own, rather because that is the number that we are looking for. So that's the end of that. It is MOST DEFINITELY NOT NUMEROLOGY, plain and simple.
Okay, so where are the sources that prove that Revelation actually says 616? I asked for those a while back but no one seems to be able to support that claim. Partly because it makes no sense. Why would the number be 616 instead of 666, when the verse explicitly states that it is the "number of a man" and, in hebrew thought, the number 6 means Man or Mankind?
Um... read the book. Isle of Patmos, not Jerusalem.
There also seem to be people who think that because Prince Charles doesn't look threatening or scary he can't be the antichrist. Let's see here, in Revelation does it not say "All the world marveled and followed the beast?" If I was going to try to rule the world I wouldn't do it by looking scary. I would do it by getting on the good side of the various peoples at the heart of world politics, something Prince Charles seems to be good at doing.Right, I'm sure if we scare the heck out of everyone, they will want to worship and make us the ruler of them all. Makes a lot of sense.
You wouldn't, would you? Some people who have responded to me have successfully proven that they haven't even READ THROUGH WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID before they posted their idiotic ramblings. For example:
This man clearly has no idea what he is talking about, nor did he read my entire post. For one thing, OF COURSE it's going to be in modern english! Prince Charles is a MODERN ENGLISHMAN for shrieking out loud. There is no reason why it would be in old english. You also said that is wasn't in hebrew. Well, according to my original post, which you can see I have not edited from it's original form, yes I DID in fact say that it adds up to 666 in HEBREW as well. Guess what? I said the same thing about GREEK. Now maybe if you want to appear as though you still have a single shred of credibility you could try reading the posts to which you respond BEFORE you respond to them.
"Numerology is any belief in the divine, mystical or other special relationship between a number and some coinciding events." - Wikipedia
Numerology refers to the importance and mystical meaning of numbers, whereas I am simply pointing out the numbers themselves. This is actually really easy to understand if you use common sense. It's very much like if I said that I would pay you a million dollars if you could find me a pink-colored rock. The pink-colored rock itself isn't worth a million dollars. Now if you find a pink rock, you are likely to be excited, when before you might not have even noticed it. Likewise, the significance if the number 666 is external rather than internal. This number doesn't bear some inherent significance on it's own, rather because that is the number that we are looking for. So that's the end of that. It is MOST DEFINITELY NOT NUMEROLOGY, plain and simple.
Okay, so where are the sources that prove that Revelation actually says 616? I asked for those a while back but no one seems to be able to support that claim. Partly because it makes no sense. Why would the number be 616 instead of 666, when the verse explicitly states that it is the "number of a man" and, in hebrew thought, the number 6 means Man or Mankind?
(June 6, 2014 at 2:52 am)Minimalist Wrote: The author, sitting in Jerusalem in 68 and no doubt shitting his pants while Vespasian's army cut the city off from the outside world, indulged in some Jewish apocalyptic writing which was later co-opted by xtians who invented all sorts of stupid stories about it. The author can be forgiven for not guessing the brief reigns of Otho and Vitellius. That was unprecedented and this is politics....not "prophecy."
Um... read the book. Isle of Patmos, not Jerusalem.
There also seem to be people who think that because Prince Charles doesn't look threatening or scary he can't be the antichrist. Let's see here, in Revelation does it not say "All the world marveled and followed the beast?" If I was going to try to rule the world I wouldn't do it by looking scary. I would do it by getting on the good side of the various peoples at the heart of world politics, something Prince Charles seems to be good at doing.Right, I'm sure if we scare the heck out of everyone, they will want to worship and make us the ruler of them all. Makes a lot of sense.
(June 6, 2014 at 5:10 am)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote:(June 5, 2014 at 8:23 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: Anyone care to provide a logical counterpoint, or are you just going to try hard to be clever and use curse words in place of reason?
I don't see what there is to counter?
You wouldn't, would you? Some people who have responded to me have successfully proven that they haven't even READ THROUGH WHAT I ACTUALLY SAID before they posted their idiotic ramblings. For example:
(June 5, 2014 at 8:06 pm)LostLocke Wrote: It's also quite funny that the "Modern English" letters are what add up to 666.
Not Hebrew, not Greek, not Latin, not Aramaic, not Old English.... but modern English.
This man clearly has no idea what he is talking about, nor did he read my entire post. For one thing, OF COURSE it's going to be in modern english! Prince Charles is a MODERN ENGLISHMAN for shrieking out loud. There is no reason why it would be in old english. You also said that is wasn't in hebrew. Well, according to my original post, which you can see I have not edited from it's original form, yes I DID in fact say that it adds up to 666 in HEBREW as well. Guess what? I said the same thing about GREEK. Now maybe if you want to appear as though you still have a single shred of credibility you could try reading the posts to which you respond BEFORE you respond to them.