Evidence of the Bible's Validity
June 6, 2014 at 1:20 pm
(This post was last modified: June 6, 2014 at 1:22 pm by Rampant.A.I..)
(June 6, 2014 at 12:59 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: Well, there seems to be quite a load of complete and total s**t to cut through in the above posts, but I'll try.
Correct, you unloaded a metric tonne of it.
(June 6, 2014 at 12:59 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: "Numerology is any belief in the divine, mystical or other special relationship between a number and some coinciding events." - Wikipedia
Numerology refers to the importance and mystical meaning of numbers, whereas I am simply pointing out the numbers themselves. This is actually really easy to understand if you use common sense. It's very much like if I said that I would pay you a million dollars if you could find me a pink-colored rock. The pink-colored rock itself isn't worth a million dollars. Now if you find a pink rock, you are likely to be excited, when before you might not have even noticed it. Likewise, the significance if the number 666 is external rather than internal. This number doesn't bear some inherent significance on it's own, rather because that is the number that we are looking for. So that's the end of that. It is MOST DEFINITELY NOT NUMEROLOGY, plain and simple.
You should actually read the articles you quote from:
Quote:Alphabetic systems
There are many numerology systems which assign numerical value to the letters of an alphabet. Examples include the Abjad numerals in Arabic, the Hebrew numerals, Armenian numerals, and Greek numerals. The practice within Jewish tradition of assigning mystical meaning to words based on their numerical values, and on connections between words of equal value, is known as gematria.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Numerology
(June 6, 2014 at 12:59 pm)JimmyNeutron Wrote: Okay, so where are the sources that prove that Revelation actually says 616? I asked for those a while back but no one seems to be able to support that claim. Partly because it makes no sense. Why would the number be 616 instead of 666, when the verse explicitly states that it is the "number of a man" and, in hebrew thought, the number 6 means Man or Mankind?
Right here:
Quote:Around 2005, a fragment from Papyrus 115, taken from the Oxyrhynchus site, was discovered at the Oxford University’s Ashmolean Museum. It gave the beast’s number as 616 χις. This fragment happens to be the oldest manuscript (about 1,700 years old) of Revelation 13 to date.[11][12]
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_beast