(June 4, 2014 at 7:27 pm)Rampant.A.I. Wrote: What source do you have a problem with, the source you disagree with that compiled unbiased studies information in a manner you don't want to hear?
I have a problem with the user-generated source that disallows the citations of primary research.
Quote: This is sourced material, you and Waldorf want to pretend it's inaccurate because it upsets you, the same as the rampant sex abuse and child molestation in every Christian
denomination.
It does not upset me at all because I know even if your data are correct they are irrelevant. Morality cannot exist without God and this does nothing to support otherwise.
Quote: http://m.washingtonpost.com/opinions/why...story.html
Those poor atheists; nobody likes them.
(June 4, 2014 at 8:20 pm)Tonus Wrote: Experience, common sense, empathy, sympathy... any number of factors will help me to determine what is the right or wrong decision to make in most situations.
Care to elaborate?
Quote: It seems to me that it is the first step in the basis for anyone's morality. What do they stand to gain, and what are the potential costs.
White Americans gained an awful lot through the antebellum slave trade of the 18th and 19th Centuries, the Germans gained a vast amount of scientific knowledge through conducting scientific tests on the Jewish people so were those acts morally justified then?
(June 4, 2014 at 8:28 pm)Irrational Wrote: My position is that nobody, Christian or not, has access to absolute objective morality.
If I ask a Christian how they know what kind of killing is considered murder, chances are they won't resort to an invisible silent God for the answer. They'll try to rely on their reasoning faculty instead. Well, that's an indicator of subjective morality, not objective.
You’re trying to argue that the laws of deduction are subjective not objective? Or is that not what you meant by reasoning?
Quote: So whether the Christian likes it or not, we're all in the same general boat with regards to the question of morality.
So you wish, but unfortunately for you the Christian can account for the existence of transcendent laws of morality that apply to all humans and you cannot.
(June 5, 2014 at 10:54 am)Black_Pegasus Wrote: I love this response!
Why? I found it rather poorly thought out to be honest.
(June 5, 2014 at 11:06 am)Hoopington Wrote: It's a loaded question, morality is totally subjective.
How do you know this? If a person stipulates that child rape is morally good then child rape is morally good?
(June 5, 2014 at 11:58 am)elconquistador Wrote: This is a great question, I would suggest reading some Christopher Hitchens, he hit's this topic right on the head.
Hitchens argued that abortion was morally wrong, do you agree?