what are we supposed to say again when christians ask us where we get our morality?

[Thumpalumpacus]

i think the christians have a point here

from what i can tell most atheists still get their morality from fear of the law or being publicly shamed, a lot of which was originally to do with religious intervention

an example would be murder

i can't really think of a reason not to murder everyone if there wasn't those consequences to it

I can. For one thing, one would have many fewer avenues of succour in the face of danger; one could not call on the help of dead tribe-mates to help slay the lion at the cave's mouth. A solitary human hunter is much less efficient, not to mention much more vulnerable. In the modern world that interconnectedness is deeper, as you rely on doctors for you health, farmers for your food, laborers to build your shelter, and so on. And if you're willing to forgo those comforts, you're right back at a life that is "nasty, short, and brutish", without any family, lovers, or friends to ameliorate it.

Also, you might break your glasses:



Finally, how did you arrive at your assessment of "most" atheists?