(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: Physical science will discover more and more but sooner or later will find himself in a blind alley.
The spiritual side of the gland can only be discovered by practicing spirituality.
You keep missing the point of what I'm saying. Let's say there's a sceptical sort of man called Fred. He comes across instructions for opening the third eye and thinks it's just religious bullshit. If he can find a report saying that something really happens when people do this kind of exercise he might decide to give it a go and discover it's useful.
Physical science has proved that meditation and yoga have benefits on the mental and physical level but it can't prove anything else. If something else really does exist, physical science is no threat to it.
(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: You can't really reason with religious people as they lock themselves inside a corral of dogmas or false truth.
A waste of time and a waste of their lives considering that they are getting nowhere.
It depends what else they're doing with their lives. There are religious people fighting fires, working as doctors or nurses or caring about animal welfare etc. etc.
(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: When you study something you always look for a goal.
Physical science can not have a goal as the universe is finite.
The goal is to find out everything that's possible to know about the physical universe. That's going to keep scientists busy for a very long time.
(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: That means that sooner or later anyone studying something will want to get out the finite limitations and penetrate the infinite arena.
Scientists can follow a spiritual path in their non-professional lives if they want to. There's nothing stopping a neuroscientist from writing articles about how the brain acts as a God antenna as long as they don't hope to get these articles published in a science journal like Nature.
(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: Ramachandran like you like me and like all the guys in this forum we are no exception.
It is only a question of when.
How can you claim to know what other people want? All we know about Ramachandran is that he's an agnostic because he said so. He also doesn't claim that neuroscience disproves God's existence.
(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: A lot of good theories but where is the practical way to progress?
Suppose you want to get the driving licence.
You study all the road rules but you never drive the car.
What's the point?
You obviously missed the bit about transcending the personal and spirituality. I've been in a travelling car ever since I was born. The question is who is really driving the car.

(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: Well before we can understand this point we have to understand that the physical reality is an illusion.
That is not that simple as the brick that fall on the head hurt a lot.
Some fakirs can sleep on a nails bed without feeling any pain as other people who go in trance do.
I think Ramachandran's therapy for his phantom limb patient relates to that.

(June 26, 2014 at 9:52 am)Riketto Wrote: In spirituality there are other ways to deal with this problem to an extent
by practicing the 2 lesson.
When you come to believe that you exist in God mind the physical reality no longer apply but everything come as slow or as fast as your spiritual progress goes.
Physical science can't prove that what you believe in is fact. It can't prove that God exists either. All it can do is prove that some ideas people have are wrong such as God created the Earth six thousand years ago.



