The redneck strike again.

[Little Rik]

Rather than convenient i would say........PRACTICAL.
To fix your plumbing you call a plumber not an electrician or a carpenter.
That is not a question of convenient.
That is practical.
At the same time when you deal with something spiritual you use spirituality not something physical.
Does it take such a big mental effort to understand this simple thing?

You can't use a tool that doesn't exist

Nothing really exist unless you do the effort of discover it.
There are gold nuggets somewhere hidden under the ground.
Unless you are interested in discover them they will stay where they are for ever or until you will show any interest in discover them.
At the same time there is a seed in your life that is left alone and undiscovered for lack of interest.
What apply to you does not mean that apply to me or other.
You are free to leave that seed undiscovered while other people who are interested do something to discover and turning the seed into a new life.

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You keep missing the point of what I'm saying. Let's say there's a sceptical sort of man called Fred. He comes across instructions for opening the third eye and thinks it's just religious bullshit. If he can find a report saying that something really happens when people do this kind of exercise he might decide to give it a go and discover it's useful.
Physical science has proved that meditation and yoga have benefits on the mental and physical level but it can't prove anything else. If something else really does exist, physical science is no threat to it.

It is natural that can't prove anything else.
To open a safer you need the right key.
The universe is a crude transformation of pure spirit into matter so how can be possible for something less sophisticate to understand something more pure and advanced?

It depends what else they're doing with their lives. There are religious people fighting fires, working as doctors or nurses or caring about animal welfare etc. etc.

We are talking about philosophical matter not their normal lives.

When you study something you always look for a goal.
Physical science can not have a goal as the universe is finite.

The goal is to find out everything that's possible to know about the physical universe. That's going to keep scientists busy for a very long time.

This is the goal of anyone not interested in spirituality and also represent the attitude of anyone who carry on with the canary syndrome.
As the poor canary feel happy to live in a cage where he can get food and protection from predators he also neglect his dharma or purpose in life which is to fly.
At the same time anyone who feel happy to live in this physical dimension neglect the real reason of life which is to reach human emancipation.

Scientists can follow a spiritual path in their non-professional lives if they want to. There's nothing stopping a neuroscientist from writing articles about how the brain acts as a God antenna as long as they don't hope to get these articles published in a science journal like Nature

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How can you claim to know what other people want? All we know about Ramachandran is that he's an agnostic because he said so. He also doesn't claim that neuroscience disproves God's existence.

My opinion is that we have no choices.
We are stuck here in this physical world so we can only go ahead or backwards.
We can expand or reduce our consciousness so it is much better to expand it and go ahead that is why i say that Ramachandran like everybody else will have one day to choose.

You obviously missed the bit about transcending the personal and spirituality. I've been in a travelling car ever since I was born. The question is who is really driving the car. Reading the theory of Jungian psychology has no more effect than just reading about what yoga is supposed to do. Both have to be applied. I shall stay with Jungian psychology and Eckhart Tolle's exercise because I'm not obliged to believe in things like reincarnation and Shiva teaching yoga 7,000 years ago.

Did anybody OBLIGED you?

Physical science can't prove that what you believe in is fact. It can't prove that God exists either. All it can do is prove that some ideas people have are wrong such as God created the Earth six thousand years ago.

You must be talking about religious dogmas.
Nothing to do with yoga.