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Legalization.
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RE: Legalization.
(July 4, 2014 at 11:58 am)paulpablo Wrote: Personally I would legalize prostitution and marijuana smoking.

I don't break any law concerning either of these things but I think policing these laws is just a waste of money and time, criminalizing them just makes it more unsafe for people who want to participate in these acts.

I used to smoke weed but don't anymore, and probably will see a prostitute at sometime in the future.

Regarding prostitution, in my country it is de-criminalized/legal. You are free to prostitute yourself as you please as long as there is no pimping, that is illegal. I support legalization/decriminalization, I don't think prostitutes or clients are committing a crime. As for regulation, Holland style, I have my doubts, I'm still trying to decide myself but I'm skeptical that in reality it will make things better.

As for marijuana, it is decriminalized where I live, a certain possession is allowed, but selling and trafficking is not. I'm not sure about this issue, it doesn't interest me and I don't smoke weed. Can someone give me the pros and cons?
Quote:I would also put some restrictions on how much people could drink in terms of alcohol but I know that would probably be complicated to do.
How do you propose this? And why? If people want to drink that's their business. Bars are not allowed to sell drinks to people visibly drunk or that suffer from a psychological problem (as long as it is noticeable)
Quote:I'm undecided about gun laws since I've never been to a country which has legalized gun access.
I don't support neither the american law nor the european one. I support a middle ground law, something like 'Everybody can own and carry a gun, but most perform a number of mental tests and have specified training/instruction, including the legality and when you are legally allowed to use a gun'.
Quote:I'd just like to add that I'm not a hippy who thinks marijuana has lots of good medicinal properties but I think if people want a joint just let them smoke it, I'd still make it illegal to smoke in public places.
I think smoking marijuana if legal, should be allowed in the same places tobacco is.
Quote:Also I'd probably like to make it legal for terminally ill people to take whatever drugs they want.
These people are the ones who should be allowed more frequently to do drugs

(July 4, 2014 at 12:26 pm)Fidel_Castronaut Wrote: Prostitution . Not because I've ever frequented one, but because legalising it will go a long way to ensuring that both the guys and girls who are doing it can are not criminalised often for being right on the end of destitution owing to drugs, poverty or a combination of the both.

Regulating it could lead to better protection and perhaps getting assistance to those who need it. Often it can be a destructive cycle; hooked on a substance, sell your body to get more. I think legalising it could go someway to breaking that cycle, and maybe making their lives and the lives of others better and more productive.

I will like to pose several issues that make me skeptical of regulation (but I agree that it shouldn't be a crime as long as there is no pimping), and I'd like to hear back from you to discuss the matter:

1 - By regulating, this means prostitution would be owned by a private employer/company, it wouldn't be publicly owned since it is not an essential service like healthcare or education and most people wouldn't like their tax money funding prostitution. By being privately owned, employers will need to make profit, therefore prices of these services would rise considerably. This creates an issue - I've heard a friend of mine saying prostitutes in Holland can cost from 150€ to 500€, whereas street prostitutes make prices like 10€ or 20€, a lot of clients can't afford the higher price. My point is, this would not make street prostitution go away. Another problem is taxes, prostitution would be a service with a shitload of taxes, in europe it would be the IVA (tax on consumption of services), IEC (special tax over consumption, like the ones on cigs and alcohol), and special tax on luxury products. Imagine the prince of a single prostitute session...

2 - Regulating doesn't mean protection. Most laws have unnoticeable loopholes, even though prostitutes wouldn't be abused physically, they could continue to be so psychologically and financially. The boss could use the law to get away with it. It's too uncertain. Is there evidence that regulating prevents abuse? Even in porn industry actresses complain about being forced to enter the business or abused inside it, catching DST's, etc.

3 - Prostitution is usually not a choice, many people are forced because they need monetary means, are drug addicts, some suffer from STD's. Isn't regulating just promoting this lack of choice?

4 - A bigger problem, does regulation actually prevent sex trafficking, or could it help expanding it behind the curtains?

I'd like to hear your opinion on this problematic.
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Messages In This Thread
Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Legalization. - by Silver - July 4, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 4, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Bibliofagus - July 4, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Legalization. - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 9:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 5, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Legalization. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm

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