RE: Legalization.
July 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm
(This post was last modified: July 4, 2014 at 3:48 pm by Dystopia.)
(July 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm)Losty Wrote:(July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: Well if you think that about seatbelts you should support driving a motorbike without helmet and practicing sports without required protection. I don't think it should be legal, some people are too stupid to wear a seatbelt unless the law forces them, it may sound harsh and against freedom, but it's just a way of protecting people, some people hurt themselves unwillingly because of irresponsibility, this kind o irresponsibility can be controlled by the law.
Hard drugs shouldn't be, they cause to much addiction, the State would just be wasting human resources (I assume you're talking about the sale).
Nope I don't think any adult should be forced to wear a seatbelt or a helmet or a cup. Someone else's stupidity or irresponsibility is not a good reason to infringe on my freedom. I should be allowed to choose not to protect myself so long as I'm not harming or risking harming anyone else.
As far as the drugs thing. You can make them "illegal" but I don't think there should be any "punishment" drugs are a social issue not a criminal one. No jail time and no fines, mandatory rehab is an acceptable "consequence".
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I was just talking about legalities not the amount of people who choose to break the law.
Where I live there are serious fines for selling cigarettes to minors.
I disagree with you on seatbelt, just think about people who forget their helmets/seatbelts because the law doesn't make it an obligation and accidentally die, leaving a family and kids behind... If making it illegal (fine) can make people be more secure, even trough force, it is a better decision. But I respect your supporting of 'freedom', I just think too much freedom isn't good
Consumption of drugs shouldn't get you in jail, mandatory rehab for cocaine or heroin (other hard drugs) sounds fair and necessary to make you function well in society. But the sales of hard drugs shouldn't be legal.
(July 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm)Faith No More Wrote:(July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: Well I'm assuming assisted suicide implies someone unplugging, therefore taking a life in a cause-effect relationship of another human being. I wouldn't be comfortable do it, specially if it was a relative of mine. But if some people are fine doing it, it's ok. We should always respect the person's opinion on the matter.
From a legal perspective it matches the description of murder, even though it's not the same. Where I live it is still illegal.
And I think euthanasia shouldn't depend only on the law, each case should go to court and the decision of the court would be yes or no. I say this because in some cases we don't know if the person would consent or not, if they are in a comma for instance.
It definitely needs to be regulated, like ensuring the person is of sound mind and that it is their wishes, not someone else's, but saying so doesn't mean you necessarily disagree with the ethics of it.
I disagree because my ethics hierarchy (personally mine) is composed by 3 values 1 - Life 2 - Justice 3 - Freedom. Most times, I don't support anything that violates life, therefore I don't support the death penalty or euthanasia (this doesn't mean I want it illegal, I just don't approve it ethically, it is still an act for taking a life, even if done for compassion). The thing is we need to think if problems would arise, eg my professor told us euthanasia could give origin to organ trafficking and other problems like taking out the weakest members of society. Another problem, many people may want euthanasia and regret, I remember a guy in my country, he has no arms and legs, wanted to be euthanized, but after a few years he is now happy and says he regrets his former wishes.
Also no euthanasia if you are physically capable of doing it yourself, this is a logical necessity, if you are unhappy you kill yourself, don't ask for help
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