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Legalization.
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RE: Legalization.
(July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: Well I'm assuming assisted suicide implies someone unplugging, therefore taking a life in a cause-effect relationship of another human being.
Assisted suicide is not just "unplugging" someone from life support. If it were then that would be illegal in 49 US states and it's not. Assisted suicide is actively assisting someone who wants to die. This should be made legal in all jurisdictions for all cases of "no-hope" terminal illness. The only objections that can be made are religious ones.

(July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: I wouldn't be comfortable do it, specially if it was a relative of mine. But if some people are fine doing it, it's ok. We should always respect the person's opinion on the matter.
Have you ever watched a loved one die slowly, in excruciating agony from cancer? I watched my mom die that way. It was not fun. My brother even mentioned to me that he had considered overdosing her (mercy killing). The truly sad part is mom lived in the only state in this country that allows assisted suicide but her religiosity got in the way. She didn't have to suffer the way she did but for her delusions.

(July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: From a legal perspective it matches the description of murder, even though it's not the same. Where I live it is still illegal.
Assisted suicide and murder are not the same, legally, morally or ethically. Helping someone who wants to die, because they are going to die, but don't want to die horribly is compassionate, not criminal. Ever had to put down a pet? The only difference (as far as assisted suicide is concerned) is consent. It's wrong to make an animal suffer when there is nothing that can be done about the suffering. It's wrong to make a human suffer when there is nothing that can be done about the suffering and they want the suffering to end!

(July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm)Blackout Wrote: And I think euthanasia shouldn't depend only on the law, each case should go to court and the decision of the court would be yes or no. I say this because in some cases we don't know if the person would consent or not, if they are in a comma for instance.
Without consent, assisted suicide is off the table. Please stop equating euthanasia with assisted suicide. They are similar, but are not the same thing.

Court decisions on every case of assisted suicide? Please tell me you're kidding. Most people with terminal illnesses would die in agony waiting for their day in court. While I will probably live out my life in Colorado (a place I love), if I'm ever diagnosed with a "no-hope" terminal illness (unless this state wises up), I'll die in Oregon (a place I fucking hate). That way, I'll be able to end it myself, with my loved ones around me. That's the most pernicious part of assisted suicide being illegal. If you're even in attendance of the death, you'll be prosecuted. Imagine having to leave your loved one who has decided they have had enough of the agony to die alone while you have to go out and pretend you're not terribly bothered by something.

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(July 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm)Blackout Wrote: Also no euthanasia if you are physically capable of doing it yourself, this is a logical necessity, if you are unhappy you kill yourself, don't ask for help
Do you really believe the only reason people ever want to die is because they're unhappy? Really?!? Do you think my loved ones would prefer to go away while I blow my brains out and them come back and have to clean up the mess? Or do you think, just maybe, they would prefer to be with me when I go, helping to make my passing better and more comfortable and being able to say goodbye for fucks sake!

If you're depressed and suicidal, seek help. It's there. If you're dying and wish to avoid the excruciating agony along the way. Tough shit, I guess (unless you can get yourself to Oregon).
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Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Legalization. - by Silver - July 4, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 4, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Bibliofagus - July 4, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Legalization. - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 9:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 5, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Legalization. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm

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