Legalization.

[Dystopia]

Drinking or smoking will kill you with time, but having a car accident can kill you instantly. Just because we don't forbid A, it doesn't mean we can't forbid B.

Actually, drinking and smoking can kill you instantly as well. Nicotine is a poison with an LD50 right around 90mg. My older daughter came a couple of shots of vodka away from alcohol poisoning on prom night. A couple more drinks or a little less vomiting and she would have finished the night in the hospital, maybe the morgue. Still we allow people to drink and smoke, as we should. Seat belts are no different.

There is no point in discussing this, liberty is sacrificed for security, some people need a friendly reminder (called illegality) to wear a seat belt. I will not argue any further on this, better be safe than sorry. If you are irresponsible the State can force you to be responsible for your own good.
The chances of someone dying from smoking a cigarette or drinking alcohol are far lower than driving irresponsibly (I'm talking about instant death)

Not only religious but moral or ethical. I didn't know euthanasia and assisted suicide were different therefore my answer could be twisted. Can you explain me the difference?

There are no moral, legal or ethical arguments you can make for prolonging the suffering of someone who no longer wants to live, because of their suffering.

It is my call only if I want to consider something immoral or unethical. There are no barriers, if I consider violating the right to live, even if done by oneself, always unethical, it's my decision to hold such values. There is not a social imposed ethic regarding both euthanasia and assisted suicide

Assisted suicide is helping someone, who has chosen to die, to die. Consent is required. Euthanasia is the act or practice of killing or permitting the death of hopelessly sick or injured individuals (as persons or domestic animals) in a relatively painless way for reasons of mercy (bold is mine, wanted to make sure I was describing it accurately so thank you Merriam-Webster). Consent is off the table with euthanasia. I am not against it, but it would require far more legal oversight.

Agree

It depends on the situation. A friend of mine highly supported assisted suicide, but once her grandfather needed it to avoid suffering, she just couldn't do it, she said it paralyzed her, it's still a hard decision even if it's the right one. I'm not saying I would always be incapable, but I'm not imagining myself doing it.

Remember, we're not talking about a situation where you would have to pull the plug or inject the drug. That is handled by the patient or qualified professionals. You don't even have to make the decision. It's already made.

Nothing to add, it doesn't mean if you get to make the decision for someone you will be able to do it (the comma case)

Once again I don't know the difference between assisted suicide and euthanasia. Firstly comparing humans and animals arguments will make zero points. I didn't say it wasn't compassionate, but form a constitutional perspective it is not possible where I live

I made the comparison between animals and humans for a couple reasons. First, it's where euthanasia is most commonly used. Second, because suffering is suffering and compassion is compassion, no matter who or what is suffering. I did not make the comparison to "make points" and resent the implication.

Nothing to add, I agree

I agree court decisions shouldn't always be needed, specially if the person can consent specifically. But imagine the case when someone is in a comma and the wife argues the person is against assisted suicide and the parents argue the opposite. A court decision would solve this case and similar cases pretty well.

Coma is a very bad example. People have been known to come out of comas after months, years, even decades. A coma isn't death. It isn't any form of brain death or vegetative state. But, I see your point. I hope you see mine when I say this would be euthanasia, not assisted suicide. Again, consent is off the table.

I know a very good story regarding euthanasia and commas, it ended well. That's why I don't want to be euthanized if I'm in a comma

I was just making my expression the simplest possible. You may want to die for all possible reasons. If you are capable of committing suicide, why ask for help? and what method would we use? Why call in a third party if you can do it yourself without involving others? If I was capable of killing myself I would never ask anyone to have the burden of doing it for me. Sounds selfish. But I may just think differently than you

Why ask for assistance? Because, if this were the way I were to go, I would want my loved ones around me. If decide I'm done with the suffering, I acquire a lethal dose of a morphine based drug and I want my friends and family around me, they will be questioned at best, prosecuted and convicted of murder at worst. Unless I seek the aid of professional help. Selfish? Maybe. Better than the alternatives though. Far better.

If you are the one physically committing the act that leads to your death I don't see the problem. As long as you do not ask your loved ones to do it for you because you lack courage

Where I live it's illegal too. But pain can be controlled with medicine, the more scientists progress in terms of medications the less assisted suicide will be needed. If I had 3 months to live and could ease the pain almost to zero I wouldn't want to die but to enjoy my time.

You've obviously never suffered the kind of pain that even opiate based drugs won't even touch. I listened to my unconscious mother whimper and moan in agony for three fucking days while under the maximum non lethal doses of opiate derivative pain killers. It was fucking horrible! HORRIBLE! By the second day, and early on that day, I was hoping she'd just die and end it. I sincerely hope you never have to experience something like that, but imagine if you did.

I've experienced bad things (father dying) but not related with suffering by itself. I was not saying nothing that goes against the situation you describe, just stating that the more science advances the more people will be comfortable. Imagine if there was a way to make your mum immune to pain and better to enjoy her time. Wouldn't it be good?

I'm not asking you to accept assisted suicide for anything other than lethal diseases that cause suffering. Not pain. Pain can be endured, but flat out suffering. The dying person isn't the only one who suffers. There are no ethical, moral or legal justifications for forcing families to endure what mine did! None! There are no ethical, moral or legal justifications for forcing people who are dying anyway to die alone to protect their loved ones from legal hassles and/or prosecution.

If I seem a little short or angry, I've just re-lived one of the worst days of my life explaining this to you. I hope it was worth it.

Again the ethical part is not about making it illegal and forcing families to watch the suffering. The ethical part is that someone may be against terminating their own lives and choose to live with suffering, it's a choice. Just like a relative of mine can commit assisted suicide and I can be morally against the decision. It's my call only.

When I talk about being morally against something I'm not in anyway saying it should be illegal or a crime. When I mention morality I'm merely saying I may not agree with the behavior or the justification, not that I am want that conduct banned. The case of the mother of two children committing suicide, I do not agree morally with it, but I won't stop it. The other case of a person committing suicide because of depression, I do not support it morally because I believe everyone can get better, but I don't think it should be illegal.

There's no problem in describing your situation, I feel your pain of losing a loved one, even though I never experienced the suffering situation, I can relate partially to it.