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Legalization.
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RE: Legalization.
(July 5, 2014 at 2:20 am)GalacticBusDriver Wrote:
(July 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm)Blackout Wrote: Again the ethical part is not about making it illegal and forcing families to watch the suffering. The ethical part is that someone may be against terminating their own lives and choose to live with suffering, it's a choice. Just like a relative of mine can commit assisted suicide and I can be morally against the decision. It's my call only.

When I talk about being morally against something I'm not in anyway saying it should be illegal or a crime. When I mention morality I'm merely saying I may not agree with the behavior or the justification, not that I am want that conduct banned. The case of the mother of two children committing suicide, I do not agree morally with it, but I won't stop it. The other case of a person committing suicide because of depression, I do not support it morally because I believe everyone can get better, but I don't think it should be illegal.

There's no problem in describing your situation, I feel your pain of losing a loved one, even though I never experienced the suffering situation, I can relate partially to it.
I'll concede the point on personal morality and ethics, especially since you concede that suicide should not be illegal. Too may use morality and ethics to justify trampling the rights of others and this issue hits way too close to home.

I do agree with Losty though, that you have confused the right to life with an obligation to live. Not one of us asked to be here. That was our parent's decision. Not one of us is under any obligation to stay.

Why the hell should suicide being illegal? It makes no sense and it is impossible to punish if the offender succeeds.

I'm not making confusions, there is no such thing as an obligation to live. You don't have an obligation to live. However you have the right to live and people should try to make the most of it and be according to the possibilities, I have the example of a guy that lost his arms and legs and wrote a book explaining how he manages to be happy. Like I said, I can agree that everybody makes conscious rational decisions regarding their lives, I just don't have to agree with every one of them, I can think that reason is not enough to not want to live, it is my personal ethic. I can perfectly accept someone in pain and terminal illness wants to end their suffering, but on other cases where there isn't generally and incurable disease I don't support the decision of dying, but again, it doesn't mean I will stop these people.

And by the way, it is not always a decision, I was pretty much accidental Thinking
Whoever fights monsters should see to it that in the process he does not become a monster. And if you gaze long enough into an abyss, the abyss will gaze back into you

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Messages In This Thread
Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Legalization. - by Silver - July 4, 2014 at 11:59 am
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 12:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 12:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Fidel_Castronaut - July 4, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Bibliofagus - July 4, 2014 at 12:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:24 pm
RE: Legalization. - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: Legalization. - by paulpablo - July 4, 2014 at 6:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:24 am
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 2:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:15 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:18 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:03 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 7:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 9:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:47 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 5, 2014 at 2:20 am
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 9:05 am
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 5, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 5, 2014 at 2:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:25 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:44 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 4:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Ravenshire - July 4, 2014 at 4:46 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 2:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 2:54 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:09 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 3:12 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 3:51 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 3:57 pm
RE: Legalization. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 4, 2014 at 7:16 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:17 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:23 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:27 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:19 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 8:49 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 8:52 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:05 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:22 pm
RE: Legalization. - by ignoramus - July 4, 2014 at 9:08 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:26 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 9:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Minimalist - July 4, 2014 at 10:13 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:14 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:29 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:45 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Losty - July 4, 2014 at 10:53 pm
RE: Legalization. - by Dystopia - July 4, 2014 at 10:58 pm

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