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No Surprise Here
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RE: No Surprise Here
(July 6, 2014 at 10:46 am)Blackout Wrote:
(July 6, 2014 at 10:34 am)Jenny A Wrote: [quote='Blackout' pid='702097' dateline='1404653250']
I have a question for anyone who'd like to answer, if I'm socially liberal and economically/fiscally conservative what does that make me?

Libertarian lite?
Quote:I sort of fit that catagory myself, but it depends on what you mean by socially liberal. If you mean hands off people's private lives, don't regulate marriage, sex, drugs, religion, etc. that's the social side of libertarian. But if you mean welfare and socialized medicine, that's liberal.
No not welfare, that's not liberal, more intervention for me is less liberalism, the more taxes you pay the less free you are. Of course I support free healthcare and education, but I think there should be a private sector with quality for those who prefer. I am pro gay marriage, pro choice, pro euthanasia and assisted suicide (with requirements of course), pro marijuana legalization (alcohol and cigarettes should keep being legal, but no more legalization), religious freedom is a constitutional right. I mean I like some welfare but I think everybody should be self sustainable and not babysitted by the State, I don't like those states that tax people by 50% and people end up abusing the system and live on others' money, where I live 80% on welfare refuse to work and still keep their pensions. I'm mostly and individualist, but in some things I'm a humanist and think we should help others. I support the free market, freedom of enterprise, establishment, autonomy, free competition, etc
Quote: on the fiscal side you mean small government because the government shouldn't do much of anything beyond preventing crime, providing a court system, and managing international relations that's libertarian. The more things you add to the list the more "lite" it gets. Just being free trade used to be conservative, but the Bushes seem to have replaced that with cronyism.
Yes I like small government. I like about 40% public property and 60% or more private property. In europe this is conservative
Quote:But whatever it is, there seem to be a lot of out here. So which is more important to you fiscal responsibility or social freedoms?
, we can keep both
Both are important. Social freedoms are important, but it doesn't mean others have to pay for your expenses. As for fiscal responsibility, a proportional tax for everyone seems fair, everyone should bay, and taxes should be just the essential for education, defenses, healthcare and so on, I don't see why the government should be funding areas that they have no experience in.

By libertarian lite, I meant you might have libertarian leanings without being libertarian. Given the above, by U.S. standards you are quite simply liberal. All you have to do is say "free health care" and you're a liberal here. Free healthcare here is synonymous with communism in conservative circles.

I asked which you valued most, fiscal responsibility or social freedom, because in the two party system in which I have to vote, that is a question I have to ask every time I fill out a ballet. I can't answer the question either, so I'm often torn.
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No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 8:31 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 3, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 10:21 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Elskidor - July 3, 2014 at 10:19 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Foxaèr - July 3, 2014 at 10:28 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 11:54 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by SteelCurtain - July 3, 2014 at 11:34 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Mister Agenda - July 3, 2014 at 11:56 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Minimalist - July 3, 2014 at 12:16 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 12:18 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 12:43 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Cato - July 3, 2014 at 1:51 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Mister Agenda - July 4, 2014 at 11:27 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 3, 2014 at 12:24 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 12:26 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 3, 2014 at 12:30 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Ryantology - July 3, 2014 at 12:33 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 3, 2014 at 12:45 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jaysyn - July 3, 2014 at 1:15 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 3, 2014 at 1:27 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Bibliofagus - July 3, 2014 at 1:46 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 3, 2014 at 8:14 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Bibliofagus - July 4, 2014 at 12:55 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Faith No More - July 3, 2014 at 2:29 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by downbeatplumb - July 3, 2014 at 3:29 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 3:49 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Cyberman - July 3, 2014 at 7:21 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Cato - July 3, 2014 at 7:48 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Purplundy - July 3, 2014 at 8:01 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 9:38 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 10:39 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 3, 2014 at 10:47 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 3, 2014 at 11:17 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by downbeatplumb - July 4, 2014 at 2:34 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 4:42 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Mister Agenda - July 5, 2014 at 10:35 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 3, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by CapnAwesome - July 3, 2014 at 7:31 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 3, 2014 at 10:10 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jackalope - July 3, 2014 at 10:16 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Cyberman - July 3, 2014 at 10:40 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Autumnlicious - July 3, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jenny A - July 3, 2014 at 10:43 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Autumnlicious - July 3, 2014 at 10:48 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 4, 2014 at 5:23 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by StuW - July 4, 2014 at 5:44 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 4, 2014 at 10:47 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Ryantology - July 5, 2014 at 6:57 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 5, 2014 at 9:09 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Purplundy - July 5, 2014 at 10:26 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jaysyn - July 6, 2014 at 9:07 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 9:27 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jenny A - July 6, 2014 at 10:34 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 10:46 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jenny A - July 6, 2014 at 11:04 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Ryantology - July 6, 2014 at 3:28 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 3:31 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Ryantology - July 4, 2014 at 6:01 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Jaysyn - July 4, 2014 at 9:14 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 4, 2014 at 2:45 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Faith No More - July 4, 2014 at 3:08 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 4, 2014 at 9:50 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 5, 2014 at 9:21 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 5, 2014 at 8:30 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Purplundy - July 5, 2014 at 10:42 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 6, 2014 at 1:16 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 6, 2014 at 9:13 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2014 at 9:30 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2014 at 10:39 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 2:31 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2014 at 2:36 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 2:39 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 6, 2014 at 3:32 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Dystopia - July 6, 2014 at 3:38 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 7, 2014 at 1:49 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by A Theist - July 7, 2014 at 7:48 am
RE: No Surprise Here - by Purplundy - July 7, 2014 at 1:23 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Zidneya - July 7, 2014 at 5:21 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by The Grand Nudger - July 7, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: No Surprise Here - by Whateverist - July 9, 2014 at 12:39 pm

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