RE: I am God
July 8, 2014 at 7:38 am
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2014 at 8:38 am by Muslim Atheism.)
Yes. . common pattern of an atheist argument, ignore answer and issue, and make new ones with so many " ? ", blank denial and no conclusion. . . religion of negativism. 
Who say the Quran from God ?
Allah is not a God. . .
I am God, and that's why Allah's says "NO GOD" (self/ego). . (refer here)
but Oneness, the reality . . and consciousness.
and the Quran is a hadith, the words of the final messenger. That's it.
Which part you did not agree ?
Please state your issue and conclusion clearly.
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Where does the Quran say polygamy are okay ?
The rule is "one wife", and with strict exceptions (refer here).
Which part you did not agree ?
Please state your issue and conclusion clearly.
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Hijab is not from the Quran. . it is from the Arabs. (refer here)
Which part you did not agree ?
Please state your issue and conclusion clearly.
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Wow. . . are you there when it all starts ? and who can verified all those things ? Superman ? Scientists ? LOL!
Secondly, what is your assumption? It is equal to our day ?
If yes. . . I wonder how could you understood it as equal to our day when the sun is not for the whole universe
and . . there is no sun in the beginning of time
May I know which planet you are referring as the basis of your assumption that it is equal to our day ? (ie. based on the sun)
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What verse from the Quran ?
Be specific. . this is blank accusation.
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You are talking nonsense. . who can verified all those things ? Scientists ? LOL!
I don't have to believe any of that, and the Quran don't ask me to believe all that. . . simply because no one can conclusively prove they are right (refer here, item 4)
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What scientific mistakes ? Be specific. . and. .
How do you prove that it is a mistake ?
What are the facts you used to say it is a mistake ?
Are you there to witness everything ?
Is it hearsay or theory (opinion) and not facts ?
Are you qualified to declare it is a mistake ?
What is your qualification?
What is the scientist qualification?
How long does he been involved in that specific field ?
Is he an expert ?
How does he make the experiments ?
What have he observed ?
What facts does he have for experiments ?
Is it based on facts or merely his theory and assumptions (opinion) ?
How can he be sure that it is real facts, the truth ?
and . . can your scientists prove that he exists and does not involve with illusion ?
and with so many phenomenal conditions. . .
see? how stupid for one to raise that issue. . . LOL!
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What verse from the Quran ?
Be specific. . this is blank accusation.
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No. . . it is not about obeying Allah
it is about Oneness. . self consciousness vs. egoic consciousness.
and that's what makes an atheist as "religious people". . . it is the same, and an alternative to conventional theists.
Therefore. . .
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Huh? you must be a very funny person, try ask that question to yourself. . . .
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Again. . you can't even understand the issue or the question, and instead reply with more irrelevant questions . .
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Proven. . you don't even understand the issue and just interrupts with your fallacy . .
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Again. . . you don't even understand what the article are saying and making wrong conclusion.
That article is differentiate that both atheist and theist are making conclusion on "egoic consciousness" (illusion) rather than . . "direct intuition" with nature, Oneness. .. .
Therefore, both atheist and theist are the same.
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Okay, I don't know what you are trying to prove. . . .
but I got tired to continue, and fed up with this silly and irrelevant question. .
it is so obvious that you don't even understand "the topic and issue", the "argument", or what the article are saying. . .
Try one issue at a time or make clear the above , one at a time , maybe that is better for you . .
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Quote:Prove me that it’s a testimony from God?
Who say the Quran from God ?
Allah is not a God. . .
I am God, and that's why Allah's says "NO GOD" (self/ego). . (refer here)
but Oneness, the reality . . and consciousness.
and the Quran is a hadith, the words of the final messenger. That's it.
Which part you did not agree ?
Please state your issue and conclusion clearly.
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Quote:Why is Polygamy okay but not Poliandry?
Where does the Quran say polygamy are okay ?
The rule is "one wife", and with strict exceptions (refer here).
Which part you did not agree ?
Please state your issue and conclusion clearly.
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Quote:Why women have to wear a hijab why God doesn’t promote acceptation instead of represion?
Hijab is not from the Quran. . it is from the Arabs. (refer here)
Which part you did not agree ?
Please state your issue and conclusion clearly.
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Quote:How many days did it take to create Heavens and Earth? Days? Really?
Wow. . . are you there when it all starts ? and who can verified all those things ? Superman ? Scientists ? LOL!
Secondly, what is your assumption? It is equal to our day ?
If yes. . . I wonder how could you understood it as equal to our day when the sun is not for the whole universe
and . . there is no sun in the beginning of time
May I know which planet you are referring as the basis of your assumption that it is equal to our day ? (ie. based on the sun)
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Quote:Why the Quran promotes killing if it’s the Word from God?
What verse from the Quran ?
Be specific. . this is blank accusation.
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Quote:Why if promotes a Geocentric universe? (And I’m not talking about the everything revolves around our lifes I’m talking about the stars and planets)
You are talking nonsense. . who can verified all those things ? Scientists ? LOL!
I don't have to believe any of that, and the Quran don't ask me to believe all that. . . simply because no one can conclusively prove they are right (refer here, item 4)
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Quote:What about all the scientific msitkes in the Quran?
What scientific mistakes ? Be specific. . and. .
How do you prove that it is a mistake ?
What are the facts you used to say it is a mistake ?
Are you there to witness everything ?
Is it hearsay or theory (opinion) and not facts ?
Are you qualified to declare it is a mistake ?
What is your qualification?
What is the scientist qualification?
How long does he been involved in that specific field ?
Is he an expert ?
How does he make the experiments ?
What have he observed ?
What facts does he have for experiments ?
Is it based on facts or merely his theory and assumptions (opinion) ?
How can he be sure that it is real facts, the truth ?
and . . can your scientists prove that he exists and does not involve with illusion ?
and with so many phenomenal conditions. . .
see? how stupid for one to raise that issue. . . LOL!
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Quote:What about all the cruelty in Quran?
What verse from the Quran ?
Be specific. . this is blank accusation.
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Quote:What can I say? Some of us prefer sentences instead of
Obey Allah is equal to "No God", ie. (0) . . it is 1 + 0
Otherwise, it is "1" . . ie. "I am God" (1) . . it is 1 + 1
No. . . it is not about obeying Allah
it is about Oneness. . self consciousness vs. egoic consciousness.
and that's what makes an atheist as "religious people". . . it is the same, and an alternative to conventional theists.
(July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Therefore, the atheistic "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "realism", just as the conventional "religious" (or theistic) "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "idealism" — but both atheism and theism arise on the basis of the "self"-contraction (or the ego of phenomenal "self"-consciousness), rather than on the basis of direct Intuition of the Real Self-Nature, Self-Condition, and Self-State That is Prior to separate "self" and its conventions of perception and thought.
Therefore. . .
(July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am)Muslim Atheism[color=#FF6347' Wrote: Therefore, atheism (or conventional realism) is simply a philosophical alternative to theism (or conventional "God-religion"), based on the same principle and consciousness (which is the phenomenal ego), and seeking (by alternative means) to fulfill the conditionally manifested "self" and relieve it of its suffering.
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Quote:(July 6, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: miss the point and present new sets of argument which is totally irrelevant to the real issue of this thread. . . the ignoratio elenchi, the ignorance of refutation and proving the wrong point.
If my disbelief to you statement is a is a Ignoratio elenchi? Because last time I checked Ignoratio elenchi is mentioning some point that has anything to do nor address the issue in question.
Then why do you bother to argue with me?
Why do you debate with me?
Why do you care if I refute or accept the Quran?
Why do you started this thread?
Why claiming that everyone else is in denial? If you don’t care about others disbelief you shouldn’t care whether or not they are in denial?
Why continue your thread?
Why not only agree with anyone?
Why do you constantly validate your point? People don’t believe you? So?
Even if you are bored you can simply do other things why this?
If my disbelief doesn’t matter why posting a Wikipedia article?
Huh? you must be a very funny person, try ask that question to yourself. . . .
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Quote:(July 6, 2014 at 4:30 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Can you tell me what is the real issue in this thread ?
That just as I can’t probe to you that I exist? You can’t prove anything that you are saying.
Tell me what can you probe?...
Okay I can play the delusion card as well. Probe me that everything you claim is true. How do you know there’s is a Zid? And if there isn’t a Zid? What are you doing?
What can you probe?
That you are God?
That there is no God?
That everything is a delusion?
If everythin is a delusion so does the Quran isn’t it?
And if the Quran is a Delusion why mentioning it?
Again. . you can't even understand the issue or the question, and instead reply with more irrelevant questions . .
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Quote:According to your logic everything is God and if everything is God. Does a stone is God? Does a grain of sand? Does a stone has a will?(you know that one of the personal traits of God is his will right?) And if it doesn’t then what relevance or objectiveness does that give to the Quran? How does your logic give what is content in the Quran more sacred relevance than any other self help book if there is no supernatural info in it’s contents? And how does that logic of cause and effect solve the how does everything came up to be?
Let’s see.
Proven. . you don't even understand the issue and just interrupts with your fallacy . .
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Quote:(July 4, 2014 at 12:55 am)Muslim Atheism Wrote: Therefore, the atheistic "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "realism", just as the conventional "religious" (or theistic) "point of view" is characterized by the trend of mind called "idealism" — but both atheism and theism arise on the basis of the "self"-contraction (or the ego of phenomenal "self"-consciousness), rather than on the basis of direct Intuition of the Real Self-Nature, Self-Condition, and Self-State That is Prior to separate "self" and its conventions of perception and thought.And if atheism and theism variants since both are basing on realism an idealism doesn’t that affect the effect? And if it doesn’t affect the effect why isn’t everyone agrees with everyone? Why don’t you agree with me? Does anything that comes from the self is equal? Does the continuum examination of the reality doesn’t count?
Again. . . you don't even understand what the article are saying and making wrong conclusion.
That article is differentiate that both atheist and theist are making conclusion on "egoic consciousness" (illusion) rather than . . "direct intuition" with nature, Oneness. .. .
Therefore, both atheist and theist are the same.
. . .
Okay, I don't know what you are trying to prove. . . .
but I got tired to continue, and fed up with this silly and irrelevant question. .
it is so obvious that you don't even understand "the topic and issue", the "argument", or what the article are saying. . .
Try one issue at a time or make clear the above , one at a time , maybe that is better for you . .
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