RE: I am God
July 8, 2014 at 10:01 pm
(This post was last modified: July 8, 2014 at 10:33 pm by Muslim Atheism.)
(July 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote: Religions are useful but as me and you already know, they are useful when understood correctly. Many things in religion are ignorant and are ignorant because they came from an age of ignorance just as what we say will be ignorant in centuries to come. This cannot be helped.
I agree, and it is very useful for spirituality etc. . people may consider religion as a "matriculation program" before one really wish to understand about their religion. . and all religion based on denying self and ego is okay, because in the end. . they will reach at the same place. In fact, Allah never opposes religion and wish for people to have many religions, but united as one nation of peace. . . diversity in unity.
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(July 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote: I am a big fan of Fulsifah(Arabic/Islamic philosophy) so I find great joy in things like Islam, Hindu aesthetics and Dharmic principles. I am perhaps one of the few atheists who worships a god knowing fully well no god exists outside of my own mind. Does not bother me int he slightest.
It is the same journey of Abraham, when he thought the sun, moon, sea etc as God. .ie. God that exists as external object and outside of our self. In the end, he declared there is no god and turn his face to Oneness, "I shall turn my face to the One (ie. self consciousness) who initiated (acausal) the heavens and the earth (awareness)" (6:75-79).
(July 4, 2014 at 1:13 pm)Muslim Atheism Wrote: no matter how many people I've seen in this world . . . there is still only one person there, me!God as object are common and since the beginning of mankind. People worshipping the stones, sun, animals, trees, Allah in the heaven etc. . God that think and act like a man. . . and I believe that is the difference between Islam and other systems of life. . .no god through self discovery and being independent from illusion of "I am God", the egoic consciousness (the Primary God, the "cause"). . . and in fact there is no ideology of "By God" or "Allah Alone" in the Quran because the Angels prostrate to Adam and associate Allah with Adam, ie. shirk. Ibless prostrate to Allah Alone and does not associate Allah with Adam. Iblees is By God (bigot). Therefore there is no god, and Muslim must eliminate their God and prostates (serves) all human beings like what the Angels did, ie. serving the descendants of Adam, prostrate.
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(July 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote: It would actually help your argument greatly if you differentiated between external gods and subjective(internal) gods.
It is all about sensory perception . . . (refer here). . . and "law of cause and effect", whereas human being is the Primary God; ie. the "cause", and all gods and religions are the Secondary God, ie. the "effect". The Secondary Gods is irrelevant because it is the "effect" and "solely dependant" on the "cause". It can be in any forms, but their main traits is they are created by the Primary God from the illusion of their sensory perception.
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(July 8, 2014 at 9:26 pm)Rabb Allah Wrote: The thing about Muslims is that they assert that Allah is an external being when Allah was an internal concept conjured by Muhammad to help explain the external world. Subjectivity is a massive opponent in religion and anything uttered by the words of Muhammad where but his own experiences and opinions and not objective truth.
IMO it is okay. It is the Sunnatullah, and everything has its steps and that is the step of understanding the reality, as equal to ourselves and every living thing. . . from baby, to a child, teen and grow older until people are old and died. The understanding will change if they are willing to be true to themselves. off.
(July 8, 2014 at 9:52 pm)Wyrd of Gawd Wrote: Maybe Allah is that stone in the Kaaba that the muslims pray to. That's what ISIS supposedly believes. So they reportedly said that they are going to destroy it.
Corrupted translation, and the Kaaba is not even in the Quran. .
