RE: The redneck strike again.
July 13, 2014 at 10:12 am
(This post was last modified: July 13, 2014 at 10:27 am by The Grand Nudger.)
(July 13, 2014 at 9:47 am)bennyboy Wrote: [quote='Riketto' pid='707144' dateline='1405258537']A little knowledge is a dangerous thing. In this case two small misunderstandings have snowballed into an entirely non-factual appraisal of the situation. It's a common misunderstanding, and it's actively promoted by groups with a vested interest....and we all know how truthful that sort of shit ends up being.
There is a small-big problem with let you eat meat.
It is a fact that to produce a KG. of meat it takes over 10 KG of vegetable proteins and in order to do this we need to cut more and more forests as the population grow.
Item 1. "10kg of vegetable protein" - that is unavailable to human beings. We don't have to feed livestock what we eat, and livestock is capable of eating things that we are not - things which grow on unproductive land (with regards to row crops).
Item 2. "We need to cut down more forests". Actually, we don't- and you wouldn't want to waste the money to cut down a forest just to put cattle on it. We cut down forests because timber is worth money, and as a side effect it -instantly- creates productive row cropping land (veggies for human consumption). You can reduce your nutrient requirements for a few years while the soil depletes and sell the timber simultaneously. The land is -then- put to pasture.
The actual situation is thus (ignoring the value of timber). In order to grow vegetables for human consumption in the most cost effective manner forests are cleared so as to leverage a "bank" of nutrients in the soil. After the land has been depleted and is no longer on the right side of the cost benefit line with regards to growing food for people directly the only way to continue to profit (and grow food for people) is to put it to pasture. Incidentally, putting land to pasture makes it fertile and productive (with regards to row-cropping) again - given time. Ah, the circle of life.
Try again. In the meantime, let me take a crack at it-
You don't eat meat because it feels icky. You've rationalized this ickly feeling post hoc, but the rationalization was not as important as the icky feeling - so you didn't take the time to research the issue in order to form a thorough understanding of it. Instead, you looked for snips of text and argument that would appear to support the initial icky feeling regardless the veracity of the snips and arguments -intentionally manufacturing validation for a deeply personal experience. You further vested this icky feeling with spiritual heft and weight, and as such it has become an item of sacred importance to you. This capped it, and made it "true forever, all over the cosmos" as any spiritual thing is experienced to be.
How did I do? There's nothing wrong with being a vegetarian just because eating meat makes you uncomfortable. That's a valid reason. There -is- something wrong with offering shitty arguments that 5 minutes worth of google could have dispelled for you before you ever had the displeasure of talking to me.
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