(July 14, 2014 at 9:38 am)alpha male Wrote: I guess you guys have gone to different kinds of churches than I've been to, as I've never heard a sermon on the evils of masturbation.
Sermon? No? Part of Sunday school lesson about sexuality? Yep I have.
We live in an increasingly Mormon part of the country. Here's the Mormon take on it:
Spencer W. Kimball Wrote:Masturbation, a rather common indiscretion, is not approved of the Lord nor of his church, regardless of what may have been said by others whose “norms” are lower. Latter-day Saints are urged to avoid this practice. Anyone fettered by this weakness should abandon the habit before he goes on a mission or receives the holy priesthood or goes in the temple for his blessings.President Kimball Speaks Out on Morality
Sometimes masturbation is the introduction to the more serious sins of exhibitionism and the gross sin of homosexuality. We would avoid mentioning these unholy terms and these reprehensible practices were it not for the fact that we have a responsibility to the youth of Zion that they be not deceived by those who would call bad good, and black white.
What we heard in Sunday school was more like C.S. Lewis' idea that it's selfish and leads to bachelorhood and vanity:
C.S. Lewis Wrote:For me the real evil of masturbation would be that it takes an appetite which, in lawful use, leads the individual out of himself to complete (and correct) his own personality in that of another (and finally in children and even grandchildren) and turns it back: sends the man back into the prison of himself, there to keep a harem of imaginary brides. And this harem, once admitted, works against his ever getting out and really uniting with a real woman. For the harem is always accessible, always subservient, calls for no sacrifices or adjustments, and can be endowed with erotic and psychological attractions which no real woman can rival. Among those shadowy brides he is always adored, always the perfect love: no demand is made on his unselfishness, no mortification ever imposed on his vanity. In the end, they become merely the medium through which he increasingly adores himself….
If there is a god, I want to believe that there is a god. If there is not a god, I want to believe that there is no god.