RE: God's self esteem and the human free will : NO FORCED CONVERSION WITH THE SWORD
July 16, 2014 at 4:43 pm
(July 16, 2014 at 3:36 pm)Faith No More Wrote: If god doesn't need believers, why did he create human beings?
So that they live and enjoy life without causing misery and armageddon to others. And this cannot be achieved without worshiping god.
God created us to worship him. Worshipping god doesn't include bringing him food. It includes treating others well, building the universe, enjoying his blessings.
Do you get the relation ? worshiping god = living & enjoying life with peace, honesty & charity. That's how muslims worship god.
Bibliofagus
Quote:Erm what?
I saw a lot of people in my life who thought free will includes doing what they want.
Eventually they turned prisoners to drinking, drugs and other terrible stuff.
So, the real free will lies in constraining it with a godly code of ethics -i.e Quran-, or you will be the prisoner of something else..
Abusing the natural free will by using it openly will lead you to lose it.
Quote:Because muslims don't do violence right?
Muslims are humans & believe it or not : many don't even believe in these concepts.
Notice that if you brought the Quran as a ruling medium in the Middle East, everybody will fight you, including "ISIS and Al Qaeda".
Many Muslims don't follow the direct word of god -Quran-, believe it or not the majority think that the Quran alone is not valid ; it must be accompanied with the "Hadith".
and that is sir the source of Muslim violence. Some Hadiths are correct and match the Quran, but many many many other are forged and defy it, literally defy it, and has tons of violence that the Quran despises.
ShaMan
3:13 reminded me of Marylyn Manson's "Sweet Dreams" solo at first couple of seconds :S
Good song btw
Fidel_Castronaut
It actually includes embedded exclusivism ; but Islam states it clearly that if some people are practicing good ethics, we as Muslims must be fair and be a part of that good movement.
But no, I defy the vatican in that.. even if you did good without a believe in god, you're still a person who isn't on the right track
