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The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
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RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction.
(July 20, 2014 at 2:40 pm)ThomM Wrote:
(July 20, 2014 at 7:55 am)Thumpalumpacus Wrote: Tradition has it that Moses was the author.

I don't think his contract got renewed, though; he's only got one book to his credit.

Since there is no mention of Israel in the historical record until about 1400 bce - we can also call Moses another MYTH.

We already know that the story of the exodus has no support in the historical record - nor in archeology of the area. In addition - there is no mention of the Israelites in bondage to Egypt at that time - even though we have a complete list of those who were. Once could make a case for saying that Israel was too small to be on the list - but then that would make their numbers far less than claimed as well.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/humor

(July 20, 2014 at 8:33 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Knowledge is not bad, in the narrative (or else they would have called it knowledge, not the knowledge of good and evil). Knowledge is suffering. They were already naked - had been since day one, they simply didn't know that they should be ashamed (the originators experience). Knowledge can change a situation without any physical alteration. Something can be okay and fun...and then suddenly, not so. You can almost taste the authors regret about having gained the knowledge of shame, for instance.

Keep in mind, I'm referencing this without theology, I don't need it, neither do the narratives. That knowledge is bad is some self hating jews idea that they were better off without the law, as ignorant as they may have been. Wink Shades

I get what you're saying, and I'm really enjoying the points you're making. But my point is that there is a subliminal message being conveyed, a subtext, that was certainly useful to those spreading the Gospel ... and asking for tithing. In short, I am not referencing the theology of the allegory, but rather, the utility of such a reading.

(July 20, 2014 at 4:09 pm)Rhythm Wrote: Love how she comes down with a mystery disease - and then poof...gives birth to a child...lol. That and the constant theme of jealousy between brothers. The originator of that narrative clearly had no love for people coming out of the west. Fuckers, wisping up like the wind and impregnating little girls as they breeze past.




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The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by The Grand Nudger - July 20, 2014 at 4:27 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by ThomM - July 20, 2014 at 2:40 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 20, 2014 at 8:37 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Mudhammam - July 20, 2014 at 8:39 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by FreeTony - July 20, 2014 at 9:00 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Losty - July 20, 2014 at 12:51 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Whateverist - July 20, 2014 at 9:17 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Minimalist - July 20, 2014 at 12:42 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by FreeTony - July 20, 2014 at 12:44 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by ThomM - July 20, 2014 at 11:21 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 21, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by ShaMan - July 20, 2014 at 2:41 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Minimalist - July 20, 2014 at 4:01 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 20, 2014 at 4:25 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 20, 2014 at 4:06 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Jenny A - July 20, 2014 at 5:13 pm
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Jenny A - July 21, 2014 at 12:08 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Jenny A - July 21, 2014 at 12:02 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by ThomM - July 21, 2014 at 12:09 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by StealthySkeptic - July 21, 2014 at 12:10 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Thumpalumpacus - July 21, 2014 at 12:15 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by StealthySkeptic - July 21, 2014 at 12:29 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Minimalist - July 21, 2014 at 12:17 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by StealthySkeptic - July 21, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: The Fall as Allegorical Fiction. - by Wyrd of Gawd - July 24, 2014 at 1:31 am

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