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Vatican Embassy Protestor
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RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor
(July 25, 2014 at 8:58 am)Ben Davis Wrote:
(July 25, 2014 at 7:00 am)Purplundy Wrote: I keep on running into this one.
Infallibility in the Catholic Church (papal infallibility) only goes to the Pope, not priest-rapists or the bishops who protect them.
Even papal infallibility has its limits. The pope is not somehow morally superior to the rest of humankind. Not even the things he teaches are necessarily infallible. In the event that Church doctrine is in question, the pope can make an ultimate infallible pronouncement to end controversy.
So he's infallible.

Except when he's not. Thinking

As an ex-catholic, I can tell you that you're not questioning Papal infallibility deeply enough nor paying enough attention to its impacts. You need to remember that Catholicism is hierarchical and totalitarian: all decisions are signed off by the Pope. That includes all local decisions, which are signed-off by proxy (infallibility is transmitted from one layer of the hierarchy to the next). Therefore it's the ultimate enabler for despicable acts because the church is forced to cover them up in order to protect the entire concept of Papal infallibility.

I cannot kudos this post enough times. I also know for a fact that it is canon law that every Catholic is required to obey the decisions of the Church and never consider them wrong on anything. The Church is allowed to, for instance, deny communion to Catholic politicians who don't vote the way they say. Of course, that doesn't mean that (as in the 1960 election) anyone should believe Catholic politicians will be chained to Rome. But the authoritarian vein running through the Church since the time of the Roman Empire is certainly there.
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?

Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
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Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 24, 2014 at 6:55 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by Purplundy - July 24, 2014 at 7:06 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by ShaMan - July 24, 2014 at 7:13 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by Clueless Morgan - July 24, 2014 at 7:53 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by MJ the Skeptical - July 24, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by vorlon13 - July 24, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by BrianSoddingBoru4 - July 24, 2014 at 7:23 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by ShaMan - July 24, 2014 at 7:32 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by StealthySkeptic - July 24, 2014 at 8:15 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by ShaMan - July 24, 2014 at 8:18 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by StealthySkeptic - July 24, 2014 at 8:21 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 24, 2014 at 9:51 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 24, 2014 at 11:21 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 7:00 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Ben Davis - July 25, 2014 at 8:58 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 12:34 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 2:55 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by FatAndFaithless - July 25, 2014 at 2:58 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 3:05 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Ben Davis - July 25, 2014 at 4:32 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 4:34 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 5:46 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 5:51 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Ben Davis - July 25, 2014 at 6:44 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Minimalist - July 25, 2014 at 12:52 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by FatAndFaithless - July 25, 2014 at 12:54 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 12:56 pm
RE: Best. Protestor. Ever. - by Sejanus - July 24, 2014 at 8:20 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by FatAndFaithless - July 25, 2014 at 8:17 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Jaysyn - July 25, 2014 at 8:43 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Dystopia - July 25, 2014 at 9:35 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Minimalist - July 25, 2014 at 1:35 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 2:25 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 3:16 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 3:19 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Crossless1 - July 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 3:34 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 3:36 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 3:47 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 3:59 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 4:07 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Cato - July 25, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 4:43 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 7:38 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Esquilax - July 26, 2014 at 4:50 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 26, 2014 at 5:40 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Esquilax - July 26, 2014 at 6:08 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 26, 2014 at 1:21 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by FatAndFaithless - July 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by vorlon13 - July 25, 2014 at 3:27 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 4:19 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by MJ the Skeptical - July 25, 2014 at 6:24 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 6:29 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Rev. Rye - July 25, 2014 at 6:49 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 25, 2014 at 8:41 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 25, 2014 at 8:55 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 26, 2014 at 12:51 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 26, 2014 at 3:36 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 26, 2014 at 1:04 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 26, 2014 at 4:02 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 27, 2014 at 3:42 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 27, 2014 at 8:34 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 27, 2014 at 2:16 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 29, 2014 at 7:04 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 29, 2014 at 10:51 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 30, 2014 at 12:58 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 30, 2014 at 1:12 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 30, 2014 at 2:18 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by vorlon13 - July 27, 2014 at 3:43 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - July 27, 2014 at 4:18 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by vorlon13 - July 29, 2014 at 10:58 pm
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Purplundy - July 31, 2014 at 3:52 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by Lemonvariable72 - July 31, 2014 at 4:32 am
RE: Vatican Embassy Protestor - by StealthySkeptic - August 12, 2014 at 1:10 am

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