Should U.S.A. actively pursue in the removal of Putin?

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Alice just saying we were talking about socialist parties, not communist ones, Stalin was from the CP, not from the socialist one

............ *PFT*



That was pretty good. I'd give you a reputation upper, but I don't think you'd understand it.

Regarding my conversation with the OP about nationalism, I must say that if there was a nationalist party that was socially liberal I would vote for them without thinking twice.

That wouldn't make a lot of sense, really. Patriotism is dependent on believing that you're the best, and for that you'd have to believe that the others are... not so the best.

If it happened, it would have a very difficult time remaining stable, as it's being pulled in two conflicting directions by its nature of existence, especially considering that we're not talking a fictional universe here, but of manipulating already existing people to bend into shapes they've never even heard of... and of course, you'd likely fail, leaving your nation severed cleanly in two: those who believe they're the best, and those who believe in some awful semblance of equality that stops short of unification.

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Alice,

Just read blackout's comment to get understanding what it happening and the political dynamics. Yes, "we" means the United States. Stalin is a Communist party member in the past, I am NOT a communist.

I understand plenty of fun little political dynamics and more importantly, I understand that if we're not annexing a country in a war that we're not fighting mostly by proxy and/or external manipulation: we're going to have to defend our claim over Ukraine's oil without actively incurring the wrath of the entire world. But, we have options, and the only ones that make any particular sense TO THE USA are to stay out of it until we're dragged in by weight of our alliances with the majority of European countries... and then, we would do well to either assist at that point by carrying the brunt of the battles (incurring international debt towards our state), or we can assist in a minimalist capacity that says 'we're holding up our end, but not because we want to'.

Russia is not in a position to be an active threat to the United States without going nuclear, and Putin's advisers are not stupid enough to try it, for they would be.... buried.

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In europe you see some nationalist parties having some leftist ideas to gain more votes. For instance in France Le Penn is a nationalist and a conservative anti-immigration leader, but to gain votes she is pro-choice and pro gay rights

All that changes is 'who do we hate?!' once the previous avenues have been exhausted.