(July 25, 2014 at 5:46 pm)Purplundy Wrote:(July 25, 2014 at 4:32 pm)Ben Davis Wrote: In principle, the Cardinals are selected infallibly by the Pope who, in turn, infallibly select the bishops and so on.No, they're not. That is exactly what the Catholic Church doesn't teach. But if you want to hold that ground, you'll have to come up with some proof.
Quote:If the hierarchy can fail, in process or action, the Pope is fallible.Yeah, he is. Sometimes, he forgets his car keys. But the Catholic Church holds that its teaching (what is written down in the Catechism) is infallible, so when the Pope decides to add something to that, he is infallible. And that doesn't happen often.
From what evidence, though, can you say that the Catholic Church's teaching is infallible? The hierarchy? And why is the hierarchy infallible? Because of Catholic teaching (by this I include the Bible) saying so? Around and around it goes...
Luke: You don't believe in the Force, do you?
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
Han Solo: Kid, I've flown from one side of this galaxy to the other, and I've seen a lot of strange stuff, but I've never seen *anything* to make me believe that there's one all-powerful Force controlling everything. 'Cause no mystical energy field controls *my* destiny. It's all a lot of simple tricks and nonsense.
