(July 30, 2014 at 10:44 pm)MPCADF Wrote: For me it is really simply why I don't believe in atheism, because the universe can't come from nothing, that is, non-existence, because that which does not exist can't cause anything, since it doesn't exist. We only have evidence of causation from 'something', no evidence to the contrary.
Okay... and what does that have to do with atheism?
Btw... nothing exists, but... it's got nothing to do with whatever you're trying to tell me.
Quote:And I don't believe in atheism because the universe(s) could not have always existed because if it (they) had then by definition there would have been an be an infinite regress of cause and effects, so you would have had an eternity to come into being before now, so you should have already happened. And self-contradictorily, you would never have existed because a past eternity would continue to go on for eternity, thus never reaching this point of existence now.
Everything exists. The last sentence is impossible if the first sentence is true, because you defined a universe that has been an infinite cycle of death and rebirth. Entropy and the rebirth cycle would then preclude an 'eternal existence disabling further existences'.
... You're not very good at this, are you?
Quote:Therefore, by this evidential reasoning, I conclude nature needs a cause outside of itself, outside of time and space, being uncreated. This uncreated Creator is Whom I call God. Logical, since we know the uncreated Creator exist, it is incumbent upon us to find out where God reveals Himself personally. The initial caveat is that God is not self-contradictory so only one religion can be the correct one.
By... what?
* Violet laughs.
And this being doesn't need a cause, I'm guessing?
Please give me a home where cloud buffalo roam
Where the dear and the strangers can play
Where sometimes is heard a discouraging word
But the skies are not stormy all day
