The redneck strike again.

[Little Rik]

ANTI-ONION?! hock:

Why go on living?

Oh, my God whatever.
After my thread has been dump in the garbage i thought i lost you for ever.
Your input always make this thread so much alive.
But now that you are here i am alive again.
Oh, the onion?
There are some items that prevent you from practicing meditation beside meat, fish and eggs and these are onion, garlic and mushrooms.
They got chemicals that upset the brain although onion and garlic are good to kill germs in case of infection.

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People who were brain dead have reported NDEs but nobody is sure what's going on. Did the experience happen while the brain was shutting down or after it had stopped functioning? People, including doctors and psychologists, seem to interpret the information according to what they want to believe so there is one group saying NDEs prove something survives death while the other group says it's just hallucinations produced by a dying brain.

What make me believe that NDE make sense is the fact that these people can describe places that they saw during these experiences, places that they never been in their physical life.
How could they do if not for surviving physical death but most of all is the fact that they all see God.

All they really tell us is that people experience something which they interpret as being God. NDEs are fascinating in their own right, though, whatever the explanation is. People who have them seem to regard them as life changing experiences so maybe that's the really important aspect of them.

Why these experiences would change their lives?
There got to be something very important for changing someone life.

People have spiritual experiences - that's an established fact. What aren't established facts is whether God really exists or is just a brain experience or whether something survives death or NDEs are hallucinations produced by a dying brain.
I've experienced odd things which seemed very real at the time. Does that mean I should believe in ghosts, water spirits, mysterious disembodied entities, Apollo and the Earth being a goddess just because a lot of other people believe in these things?

It all depend what people put into their body-mind.
Before i become fully vegetarian i was eating some seafood.
When i ate crabs or clams in particular i had dreadful dreams and nightmares.
Not anymore. My dreams are usually nice.
Eating well and doing meditation as well the odd thing are a thing of the past.

All the atheists in this forum use the 21st century definition of the word, science, which means physical science. This is why you get laughed at when you talk about intuitional science.

The masses few centuries ago used the latest knowledge but when someone came up saying that the planet earth was not the center of the universe and was not flat they laugh scornfully at him.
The things change but the idiots never change.
They reincarnate time and time again with the same skull full of dung.

So, God manifests as everything in the physical universe but all these manifested bits of itself forget what they are. They then have to reincarnate umpteen times until they remember so they can go back to the source. Why did God manifest as the universe in the first place? Why is it incapable of making all these bits of itself remember what they are? You can't say it violates free will because, if God is all that exists, God is the only thing that has free will.

I already explained in the past how things works.
It works like this.
Suppose you are God.
You got everything but you are alone so you want to create something that take away this emptiness.
Your mind create a space in which the action take place and you fill with the element that allow life like air, light, water and the matter.
Here the action begin.
The matter soon or later want regain the lost consciousness so turn into vegetable life then into animal life then into human life to then merge again into cosmic consciousness and here the action end but end for that particular consciousness not for everything as the show continue for ever.
This of course according to yoga but as we know million people believe in million different things.

If physical science isn't real progress, why did God arrange for humans to have the kind of brains capable of making scientific discoveries?

To survive but of course He also gave a way to progress and this way is called spirituality.

In that case, why are you using the internet and other things that science has provided if it's all irrelevant?

It is irrelevant as far as real progress is concern.
We eat food to survive, we breathe air to survive we use technology to survive as we would use a life jacket to stay afloat but all these items can not help us in any way to get out from the limits of consciousness in which we are living.
For that we need something else.

This is certainly true for a lot of religious people. They just believe what they are told. Mystics of various traditions do know that it's an inner process, though.

Some they do know.