The redneck strike again.

[Confused Ape]

To me everything boil down to the fact that without spirituality there can not be any progress so the word psychology is only a way to express how the progress go nothing else really.

Agreed. The map is not the journey, only an aid to travelling.

Taking care of the world in which we are living and of all his creatures is already something very important but it is also very important to take care of our spiritual progress so a balance between the two is the best.

Agreed, however one defines the spiritual. I pointed out the spiritual aspect of deep ecology which involves developing an intuitive awareness of the fact that we are not just part of the universe but the universe is within us. I think of it in terms of right brain perception. (Remember the Jill Bolte Taylor video?) If you want to interpret this as God being within everything rather than just the universe being within everything, that's fine with me. The Ananda Marga concept of God is very different to the God of the Bible.

A.M. symbol is the best explanation of this concept.

http://www.religionfacts.com/hinduism/sy...pratik.htm

Thank you for the link.

Your brain can not possibly produce anything.
It is like to say that the car that you use to go from point A to point B produce something.
It is you that direct your brain to act so with the help of your brain you are capable of getting somewhere.

The brain is definitely involved because neuroscience has shown that something happens in the brains of people who have religious/spiritual experiences. If you took an hallucinogenic substance your brain would start producing hallucinations.

The mind is like a mad monkey that has got to get under control otherwise you get lost in an ocean of things that are not of any help.

Agreed. This is why I use Eckhart Tolle's exercise to detach myself from all those thoughts that keep whizzing through my head. "It's a nice day but not as warm as when I was on holiday. Except for the last day, of course, when I visited the Doctor Who Experience. The new series of Doctor Who is starting soon. I wonder what the new Doctor will be like." If I hadn't realised I was doing it and stopped myself I would have been oblivious to the nice day because my thoughts would have continued rambling on about Doctor Who.

When people give so much importance to the mind and not to the fact that is not the mind what generate the real progress then i don't really believe them and give importance to what they say.
Just a waste of time.

Er.. so you are saying that Sarkar was wrong for wanting people to learn the psychology of humans and non-human animates? Why does the educational branch of Ananda Marga include intellectual subjects for students to study?

Thoughts Of PR Sarkar

In every sphere of life – social, economic, mental and spiritual – making human beings conscious of their rights leads to the expansion of knowledge, and the full application of these rights is called the cultivation of science. Neglected people who, for whatever reasons, have not pursued knowledge and science, should be given full opportunities. There should be no discrimination.

Nobody learns anything, though, if the mind is rushing around like a mad monkey. There's no point in attending a lecture if we're just going to stare at the wall and let our thoughts ramble on about nothing in particular.

When i don't know what people think at i tend not to judge them.

I can see your point here but this is a discussion forum where people are supposed to explain what they mean. You mentioned service in passing somewhere but didn't explain how it really applied to the Andanda Marga path. When you kept going on about Karmic Law and what Sarkar taught about it, it gave the impression that the Andanda Marga philosophy is too concerned with what people got up to in their past lives.

When I did a bit of research it turned out that it's nothing like it came across in your posts. I can understand if you don't want to go into great detail about what you do in your personal life but a link to a few articles about service and how it relates to Ananda Marga spirituality would have avoided this misunderstanding.

I talk about Prout ages ago in different threads but as i realized that people were not interested at then i stopped mentioning again.

I didn't see those threads. It's certainly a very interesting idea and a great deal of thought has gone into working out the details. The proposed system made me think of Star Trek's Earth society with spiritual practise instead of replicators. Please don't think I'm poking fun of it here. If we ever do develop a global economic and social system which isn't based on consumerism and is fair for all it will probably be something along the lines of PROUT. It's also more realistic than Star Trek because it's unlikely that anyone is going to invent replicators. We'll have to produce food and goods by traditional methods.

In past thread i also explained why spirituality is important but again as i realized that people where not interested in the issue i stop mention it.

Well, you can talk about it in this thread because I'm interested in the Ananda Marga philosophy even though I don't believe in a lot of the things that you believe in.

You don't succeed because you rush to quick conclusion that is why i did suggest you to slow down.

You keep saying I'm rushing to quick conclusions but my conclusions are based on the information you put in your posts and how you present this information. When I misinterpret what you mean, all you have to do is explain where I went wrong and make it clear what you really meant.