RE: Why the stigma with Pantheism?
August 25, 2014 at 9:44 am
(This post was last modified: August 25, 2014 at 9:49 am by Anomalocaris.)
(August 25, 2014 at 1:26 am)stonedape Wrote:(August 25, 2014 at 1:18 am)Chuck Wrote: The problem lies with the word "so". A star died because it died. Not so that you can live. You live because condition existed for you to live. Not because a star sacrificed itself to make the condition exist.Since you insist on making literalist arguments. I'm going to have to make metaphoric arguments.
We exist, so a calculator can live. We really don't give a shit about the calculator. But I'm sure it means everything to the calculator.
Don't get carried away with your metaphor and begin to think a metaphor reflects some truth denied a rigorous interpretation of reality. That is called woo, and to those willing to be charitable to religions, this is the innocent beginnings of religion.
Nothing means anything, or could mean anything to the calculator, except as programmed in its algorithm for the purposes of processing its keyboard inputs.
Even if a calculator had a volition and an independent ability to assess and assign value to its environment and circumstances, it is presumptuous to think it will therefore think as you imagine how would might think under a similar circumstance, and assign any meaning, let along everything, to its creator.
