RE: "What Are Evolutionists So Afraid Of?"
September 1, 2014 at 10:36 am
(This post was last modified: September 1, 2014 at 10:37 am by ManMachine.)
(September 1, 2014 at 9:56 am)Diablo Wrote: So let's have a really intelligent scientific discussion about ID. This is it.
Who is the Intelligent Designer? Now, no mentions of the 'G' word please, this is science after all. Silence.
And who designed him (or her, or it, don't want to be sexist here)? And who designed the Intelligent Designer who designed the Intelligent Designer? And who... oh, never mind.
The whole logical argument fails. Utter, utter crap. And I don't usually swear.
Yes, but the infinite regression argument is no defence. Science is just as subject to that particular problem.
Dawkins used this argument in The God Delusion to refute St Thomas Aquinas' 'proofs' of god's existence. Dawkins argued that if he cut a lump of gold in half he could only get as far as the atom because if he cut that in half it ceased to be gold, and that this was proof that the infinite regression did not apply to science, but he got it wrong.
The atoms in Dawkins' gold may no longer be called 'gold' but they are still the atoms that he started with, just fewer of them. The fact that the names may change is purely semantic and arbitrary. All he succeeds in doing in this argument is demonstrating how arbitrary science can be.
What came before the big bang?... and so on.
It's a pointless argument that fails to demonstrate anything other than humans have the concept of infinite regression.
MM
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"I think I use the term “radical” rather loosely, just for emphasis. If you describe yourself as “atheist,” some people will say, “Don’t you mean ‘agnostic’?” I have to reply that I really do mean atheist, I really do not believe that there is a god; in fact, I am convinced that there is not a god (a subtle difference). I see not a shred of evidence to suggest that there is one ... etc., etc. It’s easier to say that I am a radical atheist, just to signal that I really mean it, have thought about it a great deal, and that it’s an opinion I hold seriously." - Douglas Adams (and I echo the sentiment)
