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Libertarian Socialism
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RE: Libertarian Socialism
(September 13, 2014 at 5:09 pm)stonedape Wrote: tjakey

Those rights you are talking about are not possible on a large scale. Every community has a different economy, culture and needs. Healthcare, education and labor need to be micromanaged. The one size fits all approach is the problem. It's unmanageable and dystopian. You do not want Ted Cruz making your decisions for you.

Everybody forgets what makes 'murica great. It's because we have 50 'muricas to choose from. But guess what, they are getting big and antiquated. They can't catch up to political will. The federal level is unmanageable because it has to keep up with the political will of 50 very diverse states.

The federal government has three jobs. Protect the constitution across all 50 states, settle multistate/multinational disputes and provide security. Healthcare, law enforcement, safety, labor and education is up to the states. With that said the states could do better. Each county could do better. Each city could do better. The federal government needs to do its job and do it right. Right now they are creating enemies abroad. They've given up on diplomacy. They let the multistate/multinational corporations control them. Now we each owe china $55,000.

One right you completely fucking neglected is personal entrepreneurship. Why would anybody work for McDonalds when anybody can make better food cheaper? Because bureaucrats won't let you open your own shop without filling a trillion forms. This has structurally created the rigged market that only works for those that can afford lawyers.

I don't agree that liberty is not possible on a large scale. It isn't possible (at the moment anyway) in our society because our society is pretty screwed up. Things do need to be expertly managed, micro or macro are just points on a sliding scale.

I agree that the federal government needs to to its job and do it right. That would include preventing the States Rights fundamentalists from keeping minority Americans away from the voting booth, infringing on the rights of female American's, and forcing the rest of us (Fuck you Texas) to teach our kids Christian-Lunacy-Creationism as science. It is the States (mostly Republican) that are neglecting the Constitution. (With the help of a Republican SCOTUS). The Federal Government's main failure is letting them get away with it. You think the smaller the government the better. I disagree. The smaller the government the less fight it can put up against mega-corporations. Local schools are fucked up not because of the Department of Education, but because local school boards are run by Nut Cases who think god gave Adam a dinosaur to ride around the Garden. Teachers are neglected because that same School Board flunked Jr. High and is looking to get even. Small government only works when there is a big government standing over them making sure they play by the rules.

I completely fucking neglected personal entrepreneurship as a right because it isn't one. As long as your personal fucking entrepreneurship meets a market demand without trashing the environment or subjecting workers to sub-standard wages and working conditions, fine. But if history teaches us anything is that the fucking personal entrepreneur is mostly driven by greed, and he doesn't give a rat's ass about anything other than how much profit he can squeeze out of his workers, suppliers, and customers. As long as the Government is keeping the playing field level and fair, this is not a problem. Such a self-centered and harmful personal fucking entrepreneur would soon be out of business; abandoned by workers taking better jobs (or fixed by them starting a union), suppliers getting fairer prices and selling their wares elsewhere, and customers getting better products and serves from the shop down the street.

Unfortunately the mega-fucking-personal-entrepreneurs bought the Government with the help of the same Republican controlled SCOTUS. Most of us are seeing our rights flushed down the shitter as a result. Health care run by pharmaceutical companies, HMOs, and insurance companies. (Who make money from a sick society, not a healthy one - and who don't want to insure anyone who is likely to need insurance.) The environment trashed by big energy companies protecting their vested internists with - let us not forget - massive tax breaks from both State and Federal governments. Wall Street gambling our money away (when not buying hookers and coke) and walking away free because they didn't break any "regulations". Our "justice system" has been sold to some personal fucking entrepreneurs who run our prisons, and the result is America has the largest incarceration rate in the world. Ditto for weapons manufacturers, war and gun deaths.

Getting rich at the expense of everyone else in the community has nothing to do with liberty. So, fuck off ...
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Messages In This Thread
Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 13, 2014 at 4:53 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Dystopia - September 13, 2014 at 5:34 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by downbeatplumb - September 13, 2014 at 6:44 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Dystopia - September 13, 2014 at 7:54 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by downbeatplumb - September 14, 2014 at 4:31 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by CapnAwesome - September 20, 2014 at 1:42 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 20, 2014 at 10:41 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by CapnAwesome - September 21, 2014 at 1:40 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 13, 2014 at 8:03 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Dystopia - September 13, 2014 at 8:17 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 13, 2014 at 8:28 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by tjakey - September 13, 2014 at 9:37 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 13, 2014 at 5:09 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by tjakey - September 13, 2014 at 9:14 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 14, 2014 at 1:13 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Dystopia - September 14, 2014 at 5:54 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by downbeatplumb - September 14, 2014 at 8:24 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by TaraJo - September 14, 2014 at 9:16 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 14, 2014 at 3:40 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by TaraJo - September 14, 2014 at 4:36 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 14, 2014 at 8:05 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by TaraJo - September 15, 2014 at 9:54 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 15, 2014 at 5:18 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by TaraJo - September 17, 2014 at 8:45 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Brian37 - September 17, 2014 at 9:10 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 17, 2014 at 5:27 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by TaraJo - September 17, 2014 at 11:56 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 18, 2014 at 3:58 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by TaraJo - September 18, 2014 at 9:40 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 19, 2014 at 12:12 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2014 at 8:22 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 14, 2014 at 11:08 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 14, 2014 at 11:35 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 15, 2014 at 12:19 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 1:21 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 15, 2014 at 4:35 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 5:05 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 15, 2014 at 5:55 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 5:35 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 6:51 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 15, 2014 at 9:36 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 15, 2014 at 10:28 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 16, 2014 at 3:21 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Madness20 - September 17, 2014 at 8:05 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Brian37 - September 17, 2014 at 8:37 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Dystopia - September 17, 2014 at 10:26 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Madness20 - September 17, 2014 at 11:58 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Dystopia - September 17, 2014 at 12:14 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Brian37 - September 19, 2014 at 5:49 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2014 at 10:33 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2014 at 12:00 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2014 at 12:21 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Madness20 - September 19, 2014 at 8:17 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by Minimalist - September 17, 2014 at 12:27 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2014 at 12:32 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 17, 2014 at 5:34 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 17, 2014 at 7:12 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2014 at 6:57 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 18, 2014 at 11:03 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 18, 2014 at 11:15 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 19, 2014 at 2:37 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 20, 2014 at 2:04 pm
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by The Grand Nudger - September 21, 2014 at 1:46 am
RE: Libertarian Socialism - by stonedape - September 21, 2014 at 7:27 pm

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